Suggestion Ninja's

[Aburido_burrito]

nerf is needed, they seemingly just got a buff... great.

Ninja's don't need eviscerate, if this was removed ninja's would be more balanced.

 

[Halizu]

Ninja's don't need eviscerate, if this was removed ninja's would be more balanced.

http://herocraftonline.com/main/threads/ninja-suggestion.22522/#post-200809
Have a look at that.

 

[macura]

I have a proposal that i think would work. Ninjas cant fight melee without eviscerate because of armor and casters cant fight ninjas brcause they get killed in like 1 sec because of eviscerate. What if eviscerate did more damage if the person is wearing more armor. (max damage same and only on most highly armored) this lets them have somewhat of a chance against warrior but it doesnt take out like a shit ton of the casters hp. Also get rid of one that shit is insane.

 

[Egorh]

I have a proposal that i think would work. Ninjas cant fight melee without eviscerate because of armor and casters cant fight ninjas brcause they get killed in like 1 sec because of eviscerate. What if eviscerate did more damage if the person is wearing more armor. (max damage same and only on most highly armored) this lets them have somewhat of a chance against warrior but it doesnt take out like a shit ton of the casters hp. Also get rid of one that shit is insane.

I like this idea. Eviscerate would work great on heavily armored people (warrior specs). And it would be weaker if the person had less armor. Just by the sounds of it, it would seem hard to code. @Kainzo this idea is great

 

[alexhoff1]

I have a proposal that i think would work. Ninjas cant fight melee without eviscerate because of armor and casters cant fight ninjas brcause they get killed in like 1 sec because of eviscerate. What if eviscerate did more damage if the person is wearing more armor. (max damage same and only on most highly armored) this lets them have somewhat of a chance against warrior but it doesnt take out like a shit ton of the casters hp. Also get rid of one that shit is insane.

only one flaw with this, ninja's seem to kill most warrior specs easily enough already.
and what if the caster is wearing armor?
what if the ninja is allied with a ranger so evsicerate and arrowstorm 1 shot the player? is that fair?
good suggestion though, but it should be worked out more thuroughly.

 

[Kwong050]

As I have said many times before, make eviscerate's first half of the dmg instant and the second half a dot

 

[Kwong050]

It's called a triangle, how do you play games and not understand the concept.

Rogue>Caster>Warrior>Rogue>Caster>Warrior


Idiots...

I don't want to hear about kainzo saying he doesn't want the combat like that, it doesn't matter that is the current system most of the time.

Now it is this:

Ninjas>caster>warrior<ninja

 

[Kwong050]

You can't fix stupid.

Super jump is used for raiding, when did that start being considered non-PVP?

I can beat half the classes in 1v1? No shit some classes are intended to have strong points... 1vs1 combat happens to be a strong point of ninjas.

Plenty of classes can beat ninjas...

You act like there can only be one class that has similaritys to another class, Dragoons are more utility and Samurais are more damage.

Also, why the hell would Dragoon have the same role as ninjas? The dumbest thing I've seen, ninja go for casters, why would a warrior have a role to go for casters when their armor means nothing then? Dragoons do screw rangers, but dragons are intended for team utility.

You compare Dragoons with DK and Disc?
It's about the whole package not just a few skills.

Pull your head out of your ass, and stop focusing on bitching about things you don't understand.

Use that time to actually learn something about the game.

Ninjas can beat samis, all other rogues (rangers are hard though -.-), all casters, and all healers. BTW this is all from personal experiance.

 

[Kwong050]

You can use a weapon to attack people while silenced...

I have heard that dem hoe dmg is pretty high these days.

Edit: im sorry about the quad post but I had to go back and forth to point out points and forgot about the edit button -.-

 

[EvilThor]

Quadrouple post.
Holy gawd!

 

[Egorh]

Ninjas can beat samis, all other rogues (rangers are hard though -.-), all casters, and all healers. BTW this is all from personal experiance.

Did the sam forget to use bladegrasp and disarm? I've fought ninja's in 1v1's as a sam and those 2 skills shut down ninja's. The way I can think of a ninja winning a fight vs a sam is if the ninja gets really lucky with blackjack.

 

[Falker57]

People act like this server is a game of rock paper scissors

 

[donaldmax1]

It should be!!!

 

[arcanegrove]

Ninja's don't need eviscerate, if this was removed ninja's would be more balanced.

Without eviscerate, ninja's would have no chance against any warrior specs. It was not for killing casters more easily, ( I think) but to help them kill warrior specs. I like what macura1 said for the change of eviscerate. Makinging it easier for casters, and harder for warriors.

 

[Aburido_burrito]

Without eviscerate, ninja's would have no chance against any warrior specs. It was not for killing casters more easily, ( I think) but to help them kill warrior specs. I like what macura1 said for the change of eviscerate. Makinging it easier for casters, and harder for warriors.

It's a harmtouch on a 30 second cooldown, need's higher cooldown/reagent. I THOUGHT that it has string for a reagent, why did that go?

 

[Egorh]

It's a harmtouch on a 30 second cooldown, need's higher cooldown/reagent. I THOUGHT that it has string for a reagent, why did that go?

I know that this thread is about ninjas and all if we are talking about harmtouch, Plague bomb is practically an AOE harmtouch on a 5s cd

 

[Aburido_burrito]

I know that this thread is about ninjas and all if we are talking about harmtouch, Plague bomb is practically an AOE harmtouch on a 5s cd

I'm referring evicerate to harm touch because it way better than harm touch but a very high dps class has it.

 

[Rumblestikk]

I know that this thread is about ninjas and all if we are talking about harmtouch, Plague bomb is practically an AOE harmtouch on a 5s cd

Aburido was refering that Evisercate is like a Harmtouch on 30second CD.

This thread is about Ninjas, it was just a reference, please stay on topic.

 

[Egorh]

To nerf ninja I think that eviscerate CD should be bumped up to 1min 30s and changed to scale with @macura1 's idea

 

[Falker57]

It should be!!!

GO FIND A TURTLE TO PLAY ROCK PAPER SCISSORS WITH. DON'T PLAY IT ON THIS SERVER!!!!!!!!!!