Wipe extended to September 7th :(

[Egorh]

Dragongarde didn't have many people on it that often. Usually around 50-90 people but when the no white list weekend came it went up to 100-180 people. I think that grey list will increase the people we have but it wont fill the whole server.

 

[Kainzo]

You know.. I'm not sure if we can do that or not..

 

[Thejoker1177]

Will there be a grey-list at the start of this map?

Also, any word on the name of the map?

 

[Egorh]

You know.. I'm not sure if we can do that or not..

I dont understand what you are saying kainzo.

 

[Symbolite]

I dont understand what you are saying kainzo.

I think he's referencing the whitelist going over greylist in the event that the server is full.

 

[Angyles]

Will there be a grey-list at the start of this map?

It is my understanding that the greylist will be in place at the onset of the new map.

 

[Ayohae]

I foresee massive amounts of spam-clicking at the release.

 

[Angyles]

You know.. I'm not sure if we can do that or not..

Want someone to try and do research? If you were responding to my question lol

 

[jazza411]

Also, any word on the name of the map?

I am pretty sure it is jazzaland

 

[Haxnn]

Will there be a grey-list at the start of this map?

Also, any word on the name of the map?

I heard some where it was bastion.

 

[Shadownub]

It'd be nice if we could have a limit on the Greylisted users allowed to be online at any one time, seperate to the whitelisted cap but seperate entirely ( Can't really imagine being booted off the server because some other guy wanted to play instead, just because they're whitelisted @Angyles )

 

[Angyles]

It'd be nice if we could have a limit on the Greylisted users allowed to be online at any one time, seperate to the whitelisted cap but seperate entirely ( Can't really imagine being booted off the server because some other guy wanted to play instead, just because they're whitelisted @Angyles )

Well technically the greylist does limit people on what they can do. They cannot build nor destroy things, but they can pvp and level combat. It also prohibits chatting in certain channels.

Think of it as a probationary list more or less. It is designed to allow people who cannot normally be whitelisted, because of age or past bans, to play.

So in a way whitelisted member should be granted priority over a greylisted member.

 

[Shadownub]

Well technically the greylist does limit people on what they can do. They cannot build nor destroy things, but they can pvp and level combat. It also prohibits chatting in certain channels.

Think of it as a probationary list more or less. It is designed to allow people who cannot normally be whitelisted, because of age or past bans, to play.

So in a way whitelisted member should be granted priority over a greylisted member.

I agree that they're a limited member, but in essence the point of a greylist is to give users a taste of the server before they join in. Getting kicked out once they finally do get through the 200 cap because someone who's already whitelisted felt like it isn't the best first taste they could get.

I think kicking someone from the server to let someone else on so they can play, in any situation regardless of priority, isn't the way to go.

 

[lioIIoil]

Well technically the greylist does limit people on what they can do. They cannot build nor destroy things, but they can pvp and level combat. It also prohibits chatting in certain channels.

Think of it as a probationary list more or less. It is designed to allow people who cannot normally be whitelisted, because of age or past bans, to play.

So in a way whitelisted member should be granted priority over a greylisted member.

Can they buy stuff from ChestShop? Then they would be pretty much the same at Pvp.

 

[jazza411]

I personally don't like the greylist idea because I feel if someone wanted to play HC they would take the few minutes to make a application and I feel that it could possibly bring in the wrong crowd and potential trolls.

 

[Shadownub]

Can they buy stuff from ChestShop? Then they would be pretty much the same at Pvp.

I don't think they actually can PvP through the server permissions - They're just getting a trial of the server, so they can't kill people or take damage from other players because they're in a state of PVP-OFF. Though I'm not 100% sure, ofc.

 

[Angyles]

I don't think they actually can PvP through the server permissions - They're just getting a trial of the server, so they can't kill people or take damage from other players because they're in a state of PVP-OFF. Though I'm not 100% sure, ofc.

I think they can pvp, because from what has been said the only things they cannot do is build, destroy ((Like mining, I think)), and speak in certain channels. As far as I know nothing else is limited.

 

[Shadownub]

Hmmmm, I guess that has upsides and downsides. But then again, most greylisted users will (hopefully) whitelist before they hit level 10, and before then they would have PvP immunity.

^ Still against kicking them to make way for whitelisted users, though

 

[Angyles]

Hmmmm, I guess that has upsides and downsides. But then again, most greylisted users will (hopefully) whitelist before they hit level 10, and before then they would have PvP immunity.

^ Still against kicking them to make way for whitelisted users, though

But let's say that the entire list is taken up by people on the greylist, I know it's NEVER going to happen but go with me here. How fair is it that people who took the time to put in an application and get accepted cannot join because of everyone on the greylist? It is farfetched I know, but shouldn't the people on the whitelist have priority?

I do not see how someone who was denied for having 15 bans on their record get priority over someone like you Shadow =P

The chances are slim we will have that many people on at the same time, it is a ton of people. I was just curious if one took priority over the other. =)

 

[Shadownub]

I acknowledge that whitelisted users shouldn't be denied a spot because of greylisted users - but I still think kicking them is extreme. Just being removed for the server for someone else to play sucks, and let's face it - most greylisted users are newbs, not denied users carrying 15 bans

The solution I'd like to put forward here is adding a separate cap for greylisted users - let's say, 25. In effect 25 greylisted users can be online at any time, while 175 whitelisted users can be on. If the whitelisted cap is full and there is space in the greylist cap, whitelisted users can fill that cap. But if the greylist is full and the whitelisted cap isn't, greylisted users can't bypass their cap. If both are full, neither can kick each other off - whitelisted users can't fill the greylist cap if it's already full with greylisted users.

Just my idea.

Edit: Feel a bit rude coming in and calling someone else's solution to the same problem harsh and then putting my own in. Sorry about that haha.