Recipe Restrictions

[WitchOnaRampage]

After the map launch, we'll need to keep an ear out if anyone's saying certain items are uncraftable.

Some items have more than one data value (ie wooden steps, beds) so it's possible we might need to try different data values.

And there's also the possibility of error in the code .

@Kainzo @Yavool @Jonsoon @Dsawemd

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

IMHO, I reckon restricting the crafting of iron picks, axes, shovels, hoes and swords to Smith is too harsh.

Seasoned players might accept it as part of the map launch, but new players joining later will find it very discouraging to have to level Crafter with just stone or wood tools, and they won't have the contacts or currency to obtain iron tools.

How about enabling Crafter to make iron tools/weapons?

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

Please confirm or comment on these:

• Boats –> Crafter – because boats are basic non-mechanical transportation, don’t stack, are needed by new players

• Beds –> Crafter – because Crafter also has Paintings, and Beds are purely decorative so there’s nothing to be gained by restricting them to Farmer

• Compass –> Crafter

• Quartz Block / Pillar / Stairs –> Crafter – on the same basis that Crafter has Nether Bricks / Fence and also Glowstone etc.

• New minerals for 1.8 –> to Miner

• Bookshelves –> Farmer in addition to Enchanter – Bookshelves are crafted from Farmer-produced materials, and are needed for town upgrades as well as for enchantment tables

• Carrot on a Stick –> Farmer

• Golden Carrot –> Alchemist – because of its potion-type properties

• Golden Apple –> Alchemist – because of its potion-type properties

• Enchanted Golden Apple –> Alchemist – as above, but has consequences which are covered in the next point

• Gold Blocks, Gold Ingots –> Alchemist in addition to Miner, because Alchemists need to unmake/make Gold Blocks for Enchanted Golden Apples

• Fireworks items –> Engineer

• Jukebox AND Note Block –> Merchant as well as Engineer

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

Here are the lists thus far. They are DRAFTS for checking.

Your comments welcome please @Kainzo @Yavool @Jonsoon @Dsawemd

First, the recipes restricted to Professions.

ALCHEMIST:
level: 1
items:
- 117 #Brewing Stand
- 118 #Cauldron
- 322:0 #Golden Apple
- 322:1 #Enchanted Golden Apple
- 331 #Redstone
- 371 #Gold nuggets
- 374 #Glass Bottle
- 376 #Fermented Spider Eye
- 377 #Blaze Powder
- 378 #Magma Cream
- 382 #Glistening Melon
- 396 #Golden Carrot

ENCHANTER
level: 1
items:
- 47 #Bookshelf
- 116 #Enchantment Table

ENGINEER
level: 1
items:
- 23 #Dispenser
- 25 #Note Block
- 27 #Powered Rail
- 28 #Detector Rail
- 29 #Sticky Piston
- 33 #Piston
- 46 #TNT
- 66 #Rail
- 75 #Redstone Torch (off)
- 84 #Jukebox
- 93 #Redstone Repeater (off)
- 123 #Redstone Lamp (inactive)
- 131 #Tripwire Hook
- 146 #Trapped Chest
- 147 #Weighted Pressure Plate (Light)
- 148 #Weighted Pressure Plate (Heavy)
- 149 #Redstone Comparator (inactive)
- 151 #Daylight Sensor
- 154 #Hopper
- 157 #Activator Rail
- 158 #Dropper
- 328 #Minecart
- 342 #Minecart with Chest
- 343 #Minecart with Furnace
- 346 #Fishing Rod
- 385 #Fire Charge
- 401 #Firework Rocket
- 402:0 #Firework Star, White
- 402:1 #Firework Star, Orange
- 402:10 #Firework Star, Purple
- 402:11 #Firework Star, Blue
- 402:12 #Firework Star, Brown
- 402:13 #Firework Star, Green
- 402:14 #Firework Star, Red
- 402:15 #Firework Star, Black
- 402:2 #Firework Star, Magenta
- 402:3 #Firework Star, Light Blue
- 402:4 #Firework Star, Yellow
- 402:5 #Firework Star, Lime
- 402:6 #Firework Star, Pink
- 402:7 #Firework Star, Gray
- 402:8 #Firework Star, Light Gray
- 402:9 #Firework Star, Cyan
- 407 #Minecart with TNT
- 408 #Minecart with Hopper

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

FARMER
level: 1
items:
- 35:0 #White Wool
- 91 #Jack ‘o’ Lantern
- 103 #Melon (Block)
- 170 #Hay Bale
- 282 #Mushroom Stew
- 296 #Wheat
- 297 #Bread
- 346 #Fishing Rod
- 353 #Sugar
- 354 #Cake
- 357 #Cookie
- 360 #Melon slices
- 361 #Pumpkin Seeds
- 362 #Melon Seeds
- 398 #Carrot on a Stick
- 400 #Pumpkin Pie
- 420 #Lead

MERCHANT
level: 1
items:
- 25 #Note Block
- 84 #Jukebox
- 130 #Ender Chest
- 347 #Clock
- 381 #Eye of Ender

MINER
level: 1
items:
- 1:1 #Granite (1.8)
- 1:2 #Polished Granite (1.8)
- 1:3 #Diorite (1.8)
- 1:4 #Polished Diorite (1.8)
- 1:5 #Andesite (1.8)
- 1:6 #Polished Andesite (1.8)
- 22 #Block of Lapis Lazuli
- 24:0 #Sandstone
- 24:1 #Chiseled Sandstone
- 24:2 #Smooth Sandstone
- 41 #Block of Gold
- 42 #Block of Iron
- 57 #Block of Diamond
- 133 #Block of Emerald
- 173 #Block of Coal
- 263 #Coal
- 264 #Diamond
- 265 #Iron Ingot
- 266 #Gold Ingot
- 331 #Redstone
- 351:4 #Lapis Lazuli
- 371 #Gold nuggets
- 388 #Emerald

RUNESMITH
level: 1
items:
- 138 #Beacon
- 152 #Block of Redstone
- 381 #Eye of Ender

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

SMITH
level: 1
items:
- 42 #Block of Iron
- 101 #Iron Bars
- 145 #Anvil
- 256 #Iron Shovel
- 257 #Iron Pickaxe
- 258 #Iron Axe
- 265 #Iron Ingot
- 267 #Iron Sword
- 276 #Diamond Sword
- 277 #Diamond Shovel
- 278 #Diamond Pickaxe
- 279 #Diamond Axe
- 283 #Gold Sword
- 284 #Gold Shovel
- 285 #Gold Pickaxe
- 286 #Gold Axe
- 292 #Iron Hoe
- 293 #Diamond Hoe
- 294 #Gold Hoe
- 306 #Iron Helmet
- 307 #Iron Chestplate
- 308 #Iron Leggings
- 309 #Iron Boots
- 310 #Diamond Helmet
- 311 #Diamond Chestplate
- 312 #Diamond Leggings
- 313 #Diamond Boots
- 314 #Gold Helmet
- 315 #Gold Chestplate
- 316 #Gold Leggings
- 317 #Gold Boots

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

Now all the rest.

CRAFTER
level: 1
items:
- 5:0 #Wood Planks, Oak
- 5:1 #Wood Planks, Spruce
- 5:2 #Wood Planks, Birch
- 5:3 #Wood Planks, Jungle
- 5:4 #Wood Planks, Acacia
- 5:5 #Wood Planks, Dark Oak
- 35:1 #Dyed Wool, Orange
- 35:10 #Dyed Wool, Purple
- 35:11 #Dyed Wool, Blue
- 35:12 #Dyed Wool, Brown
- 35:13 #Dyed Wool, Green
- 35:14 #Dyed Wool, Red
- 35:15 #Dyed Wool, Black
- 35:2 #Dyed Wool, Magenta
- 35:3 #Dyed Wool, Light Blue
- 35:4 #Dyed Wool, Yellow
- 35:5 #Dyed Wool, Lime
- 35:6 #Dyed Wool, Pink
- 35:7 #Dyed Wool, Gray
- 35:8 #Dyed Wool, Light Gray
- 35:9 #Dyed Wool, Cyan
- 44:0 #Slab, Stone
- 44:1 #Slab, Sandstone
- 44:3 #Slab, Cobblestone
- 44:4 #Slab, Brick
- 44:5 #Slab, Stone Brick
- 44:6 #Slab, Nether Brick
- 44:7 #Slab, Quartz
- 45 #Bricks
- 50 #Torch
- 53 #Stairs, Oak
- 54 #Chest
- 58 #Crafting Table
- 61 #Furnace
- 63 #Sign
- 64 #Wooden Door
- 65 #Ladder
- 67 #Stairs, Cobblestone
- 69 #Lever
- 70 #Stone Pressure Plate
- 71 #Iron Door
- 72 #Wooden Pressure Plate
- 77 #Stone Button
- 80 #Block of Snow
- 82 #Block of Clay
- 85 #Fences
- 89 #Glowstone
- 89 #Glowstone
- 95:0 #Stained Glass, White
- 95:1 #Stained Glass, Orange
- 95:10 #Stained Glass, Purple
- 95:11 #Stained Glass, Blue
- 95:12 #Stained Glass, Brown
- 95:13 #Stained Glass, Green
- 95:14 #Stained Glass, Red
- 95:15 #Stained Glass, Black
- 95:2 #Stained Glass, Magenta
- 95:3 #Stained Glass, Light Blue
- 95:4 #Stained Glass, Yellow
- 95:5 #Stained Glass, Lime
- 95:6 #Stained Glass, Pink
- 95:7 #Stained Glass, Gray
- 95:8 #Stained Glass, Light Gray
- 95:9 #Stained Glass, Cyan
- 96 #Trapdoor
- 98:0 #Stone Bricks
- 98:1 #Mossy Stone Bricks (1.8)
- 98:3 #Chiseled Stone Bricks (1.8)
- 102 #Glass Pane
- 107 #Fence Gate
- 108 #Stairs, Brick
- 109 #Stairs, Stone Brick
- 112 #Nether Brick
- 113 #Nether Brick Fence
- 114 #Stairs, Nether Brick
- 126:0 #Wood Slab, Oak
- 126:1 #Wood Slab, Spruce
- 126:2 #Wood Slab, Birch
- 126:3 #Wood Slab, Jungle
- 126:4 #Wood Slab, Acacia
- 126:5 #Wood Slab, Dark Oak
- 128 #Stairs, Sandstone
- 134 #Wood Stairs, Spruce
- 135 #Wood Stairs, Birch
- 136 #Wood Stairs, Jungle
- 139:0 #Cobblestone Wall
- 139:1 #Mossy Cobblestone Wall
- 140 #Flower Pot
- 143 #Wooden Button
- 155:0 #Block of Quartz
- 155:1 #Chiseled Quartz Block
- 155:2 #Pillar Quartz Block
- 156 #Stairs, Quartz
- 159:0 #Stained Clay, White
- 159:1 #Stained Clay, Orange
- 159:10 #Stained Clay, Purple
- 159:11 #Stained Clay, Blue
- 159:12 #Stained Clay, Brown
- 159:13 #Stained Clay, Green
- 159:14 #Stained Clay, Red
- 159:15 #Stained Clay, Black
- 159:2 #Stained Clay, Magenta
- 159:3 #Stained Clay, Light Blue
- 159:4 #Stained Clay, Yellow
- 159:5 #Stained Clay, Lime
- 159:6 #Stained Clay, Pink
- 159:7 #Stained Clay, Gray
- 159:8 #Stained Clay, Light Gray
- 159:9 #Stained Clay, Cyan
- 160:0 #Glass Panes, White
- 160:1 #Glass Panes, Orange
- 160:10 #Glass Panes, Purple
- 160:11 #Glass Panes, Blue
- 160:12 #Glass Panes, Brown
- 160:13 #Glass Panes, Green
- 160:14 #Glass Panes, Red
- 160:15 #Glass Panes, Black
- 160:2 #Glass Panes, Magenta
- 160:3 #Glass Panes, Light Blue
- 160:4 #Glass Panes, Yellow
- 160:5 #Glass Panes, Lime
- 160:6 #Glass Panes, Pink
- 160:7 #Glass Panes, Gray
- 160:8 #Glass Panes, Light Gray
- 160:9 #Glass Panes, Cyan
- 163 #Wood Stairs, Acacia
- 164 #Wood Stairs, Dark Oak
- 167 #Iron Trap Door
- 171:0 #Carpet, White
- 171:1 #Carpet, Orange
- 171:10 #Carpet, Purple
- 171:11 #Carpet, Blue
- 171:12 #Carpet, Brown
- 171:13 #Carpet, Green
- 171:14 #Carpet, Red
- 171:15 #Carpet, Black
- 171:2 #Carpet, Magenta
- 171:3 #Carpet, Light Blue
- 171:4 #Carpet, Yellow
- 171:5 #Carpet, Lime
- 171:6 #Carpet, Pink
- 171:7 #Carpet, Gray
- 171:8 #Carpet, Light Gray
- 171:9 #Carpet, Cyan
- 259 #Flint and Steel
- 261 #Bow
- 262 #Arrow
- 268 #Wooden Sword
- 269 #Wooden Shovel
- 270 #Wooden Pickaxe
- 271 #Wooden Axe
- 272 #Stone Sword
- 273 #Stone Shovel
- 274 #Stone Pickaxe
- 275 #Stone Axe
- 280 #Stick
- 281 #Bowl
- 290 #Wooden Hoe
- 291 #Stone Hoe
- 298 #Leather Cap
- 299 #Leather Tunic
- 300 #Leather Leggings
- 301 #Leather Boots
- 321 #Painting
- 325 #Bucket
- 330 #Iron Door
- 333 #Boat
- 339 #Paper
- 340 #Book
- 345 #Compass
- 348 #Glowstone Dust
- 348 #Glowstone Dust
- 351:1 #Rose Red
- 351:10 #Lime Dye
- 351:11 #Dandelion Yellow
- 351:12 #Light Blue Dye
- 351:13 #Magenta Dye
- 351:14 #Orange Dye
- 351:15 #Bone Meal
- 351:5 #Purple Dye
- 351:6 #Cyan Dye
- 351:7 #Light Gray Dye
- 351:8 #Gray Dye
- 351:9 #Pink Dye
- 355 #Bed
- 359 #Shears
- 386 #Book and Quill
- 389 #Item Frame
- 395 #Empty Map

 

[Yavool]

@WitchOnaRampage
@Kainzo
@Jonsoon

Looks clean, well done!

A couple grooming points:
Glowstone and Glowstone Dust are listed twice in CRAFTER;

IMO, the following should be in CRAFTER:
Fishing Rod (fish are a scarce enough);
Iron Tools, Armor, & Weapons (Let SMITHS keep chainmail along with alchemists, and figure out a way to give them the ability to tag stuff/use the Anvil, like the should be able to);

Other considerations:

• These restrictions are pretty tight...I think some loosening should occur. Not everyone is a town-type (there are plenty of Lone Wolfs that play HC, for various reasons), yet everyone is restricted to one profession. For this reason, it is important to look at items that are necessary for enjoyable gameplay, whether the person is in a town (and thus plugged into a larger social network) or not;
• Items that are fundamental to the progress of the individual profession should be allowed to be created by that profession:
• MINERS deserve the ability to create all pickaxes and shovels, as they are fundamental to their profession;
• FARMERS deserve the ability to create all hoes and axes, as they are fundamental to their profession;
• Item Frame should be removed from CRAFTER and put back exclusive to RUNESMITH as it once was; if we are worried about frames being a source of lag, then we should restrict their production as they once were.
• Per the wiki, ALCHEMISTS presently have the ability to sell the following:

• Beds, Books, Bowls, Bricks, Clay Balls, Coal, Ender Eyes, Flint, Glowstone Dust, Paintings, Paper, Saddles, Signs, Snowballs, Sticks and Sugar

  I am unsure if those will go away or not with these new restrictions; if not, they need to be added, as will all the Cauldron Recipes;
• Each Profession should be able to sell the items they can make, forage, mine, harvest, or otherwise acquire. I am unsure if this recipe restriction thread also restricts their ability to sell items to the ones listed, or if that is another project. Clarificaiton would be great.
• ENCHANTERS need a way to sell their creations, and I am unsure if this is the time & place to code that.

-yav

 

[Kainzo]

You dont have to have a town to get these things - you just have to visit a store or be more vocal in trade. This is what we want. The goods are, we can change these almost on the drop of a hat if feel they are too tight. It is far better to over shoot a change like this to undershoot and then change "after" release.

 

[Kainzo]

IMHO, I reckon restricting the crafting of iron picks, axes, shovels, hoes and swords to Smith is too harsh.

Seasoned players might accept it as part of the map launch, but new players joining later will find it very discouraging to have to level Crafter with just stone or wood tools, and they won't have the contacts or currency to obtain iron tools.

How about enabling Crafter to make iron tools/weapons?

Can you please include all the changes in the proper format? this includes spacing you MUST use a [ code] tag on them. If you do not, i will manually have to fix each. Also - im not 100% we can use the #comment sign after the number, but we can give it a try.

 

[Yavool]

Can you please include all the changes in the proper format? this includes spacing you MUST use a [ code] tag on them. If you do not, i will manually have to fix each. Also - im not 100% we can use the #comment sign after the number, but we can give it a try.

There are no examples of the brackets you are speaking of in the examples you have given so far. If you had them in the examples, for some reason they are not showing up. I think Witch & I would need precise and accurate examples to fulfill this request, as we are not coders. Thanks.

 

[Kainzo]

CRAFTER

basic: #basic stuff
  level: 1
  items:
    - 403
    - 54
    - 58
    - 293
    - 294

 

[Yavool]

There are no brackets in your quote...am I missing something? :O

@Kainzo

 

[Dsawemd]

@WitchOnaRampage
looks good checked with this site.
http://minecraft-ids.grahamedgecombe.com/

@Kainzo We haven't done the Forum Code tag before, you need to provide the Format please. See below for uninformed best. Remember, we do not know the levels that you want each recipe to unlock so here is all of them unlocked at level 1.

ALCHEMIST:

Spoiler

 Alchemist: #Stuff
level: 1
  items:
    - 117
    - 118
    - 322:0
    - 322:1
    - 331
    - 371
    - 374
    - 376
    - 377
    - 378
    - 382
    - 396

ENCHANTER

Spoiler

 Enchanter: #stuff
level: 1
  items:
    - 47
    - 116

ENGINEER

Spoiler

 Engineer: #stuff
  level: 1
  items:
    - 23
    - 25
    - 27
    - 28
    - 29
    - 33
    - 46
    - 66
    - 75
    - 84
    - 93
    - 123
    - 131
    - 146
    - 147
    - 148
    - 149
    - 151
    - 154
    - 157
    - 158
    - 328
    - 342
    - 343
    - 346
    - 385
    - 401
    - 402:0
    - 402:1
    - 402:10
    - 402:11
    - 402:12
    - 402:13
    - 402:14
    - 402:15
    - 402:2
    - 402:3
    - 402:4
    - 402:5
    - 402:6
    - 402:7
    - 402:8
    - 402:9
    - 407
    - 408

Also: Minecarts, Rails and TnT should go to Miner. Anything powered should go to engineers, including powered rails and Furnace Carts. Engineer has enough

edit: We can quickly do the rest if you confirm the format is right

 

[Kainzo]

Also if you read t

@WitchOnaRampage
looks good checked with this site.
http://minecraft-ids.grahamedgecombe.com/

@Kainzo We haven't done the Forum Code tag before, you need to provide the Format please. See below for uninformed best. Remember, we do not know the levels that you want each recipe to unlock so here is all of them unlocked at level 1.

ALCHEMIST:

Spoiler

 Alchemist: #Stuff
level: 1
  items:
    - 117
    - 118
    - 322:0
    - 322:1
    - 331
    - 371
    - 374
    - 376
    - 377
    - 378
    - 382
    - 396

ENCHANTER

Spoiler

 Enchanter: #stuff
level: 1
  items:
    - 47
    - 116

ENGINEER

Spoiler

 Engineer: #stuff
  level: 1
  items:
    - 23
    - 25
    - 27
    - 28
    - 29
    - 33
    - 46
    - 66
    - 75
    - 84
    - 93
    - 123
    - 131
    - 146
    - 147
    - 148
    - 149
    - 151
    - 154
    - 157
    - 158
    - 328
    - 342
    - 343
    - 346
    - 385
    - 401
    - 402:0
    - 402:1
    - 402:10
    - 402:11
    - 402:12
    - 402:13
    - 402:14
    - 402:15
    - 402:2
    - 402:3
    - 402:4
    - 402:5
    - 402:6
    - 402:7
    - 402:8
    - 402:9
    - 407
    - 408

Also: Minecarts, Rails and TnT should go to Miner. Anything powered should go to engineers, including powered rails and Furnace Carts. Engineer has enough

edit: We can quickly do the rest if you confirm the format is right

Format is right - using the [ code] tag is part of the forums, it makes sure not to parse out spaces, etc. YML formatting REQUIRES a certain amount of spaces or it wont load.

The first post has a fast and dirty list of who should have what

 

[Dsawemd]

The fast and dirty has things like "Potions".

Are The Lists starting with THIS POST

snip

ready to be put into [ Code ]?

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

The first post has a fast and dirty list of who should have what

The fast and dirty list was indeed dirty - it had many errors and omissions.

Posting as code is Step 2 and will take just 2 seconds. At this stage, the format is just a distraction.

The CONTENT needs to be checked off as the first step.

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

Everyone, to insert as code at the forums, click the Insert button (3rd to the right of Smilies) and then select Code...

... like this :)

which I certainly will do once the content is checked off.

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

You've brought up some great points, @Yavool

As you say, these changes make some chestshop skills unusable because the class can no longer craft items they have perms to sell.

I've fixed these:

• Item Frame to Runesmith, not Crafter
• Glowstone/dust duplication in Crafter

I understand this code is ONLY for crafting tables, and not for:

• furnaces
• enchanting tables
• brewing stands
• cauldrons

 

[WitchOnaRampage]

Thanks for your input too, @Dsawemd

I've moved these from Engineer to Miner:

• Minecart
• Minecart with Chest
• Minecart with Furnace
• Rail
• Powered Rail
• Detector Rail
• Activator Rail
• TNT
• Minecart with TNT
• Minecart with Hopper

Any comments on any of these?