Suggestion PvP death when you die to fall in combat.

[Barnubus]

So, pretty big issue, I've seen players using fall damage to avoid a pvp kill. I was thinking maybe you could implement something to help curve this little dodge.
If you die to fall damage, drowning, or fire damage while in PvP then they die to the person they were last combat tagged by.

Mobs would be the same, but possibly a little harder to do, since they tag you as well.

 

[northeaster345]

I remember this working at the end of Dragon, so I think it's at least possible to implement

Also if the same could be done for fire, that would be cool

 

[c12095]

This needs to happen, except I think it needs to be somewhat time restricted. Don't need someone to get a random kill because you die to fall damage 10 minutes later.

 

[Barnubus]

This needs to happen, except I think it needs to be somewhat time restricted. Don't need someone to get a random kill because you die to fall damage 10 minutes later.

Ye, until you're no longer combat tagged is all.

 

[leftovers5]

I think this definitely needs to be implemented in the case of fireball's fire tick. I question drowning/falling though.

 

[Barnubus]

I think this definitely needs to be implemented in the case of fireball's fire tick. I question drowning/falling though.

In what case/situation would it not work out?

 

[JetSnipe387]

I personally think this is a good idea and hope it is reimplemented

 

[leftovers5]

In what case/situation would it not work out?

Fall damage is flat damage, while drowning damage is large amounts of per second damage. If you kill yourself through either, you're probably taking more damage than any player can do. Plus, fire tick is DIRECTLY related to a skill(s).

 

[Kwong050]

I remember this working at the end of Dragon, so I think it's at least possible to implement

Also if the same could be done for fire, that would be cool

I remember when this was bugged. I tagged digger one time and 30 min late i got that kill... probably because of fall dmg.

 

[Barnubus]

Fall damage is flat damage, while drowning damage is large amounts of per second damage. If you kill yourself through either, you're probably taking more damage than any player can do. Plus, fire tick is DIRECTLY related to a skill(s).

But you'll still be in combat, it's still part of combat to avoid damage of all kind, including drowning/falling. It's strategy to try and knock someone off a hill or keep them under water long enough to kill them, right?

 

[leftovers5]

But you'll still be in combat, it's still part of combat to avoid damage of all kind, including drowning/falling. It's strategy to try and knock someone off a hill or keep them under water long enough to kill them, right?

Considering drowning/falling is terrain-inflicted, I don't really see a reason why they should be grouped with player-inflicted fire deaths.

 

[Symbolite]

If you're combat tagged you're in combat with someone. If you die while combat tagged credit should naturally go to the person that combat tagged you. I thought this should have been implemented 2 maps ago lol

 

[Dsawemd]

Your precious Elo is no longer as safe as it once was.

+1 for fall damage counting as combat kills when tagged.

For one, I myself have been the victim of enemies exploiting the fix to /kill by falling to their deaths (why did we make /kill stop working if they can still suicide?!) .

For another, classes like Disciple, Samurai, and Bard can throw you around a fair bit (using force skills/speed boost melee hits) and often in world pvp you take some fall damage from fighting them.

 

[Danda]

Fall damage is flat damage, while drowning damage is large amounts of per second damage. If you kill yourself through either, you're probably taking more damage than any player can do. Plus, fire tick is DIRECTLY related to a skill(s).

Fall damage is not linked to forcepush/forcepull/iron fist ?

 

[BigguthDickuth]

I second this.

 

[leftovers5]

Fall damage is not linked to forcepush/forcepull/iron fist ?

I suppose. If you find me a reason to support the drowning one then, I'll support this suggestion 100 fold.

 

[Delfofthebla]

I agree. I think that if you die within 30 seconds of being "hit" by another player, regardless of what killed you (fall, fire, mobs) the kill should be awarded to the player that last hit him.

 

[Dsawemd]

I suppose. If you find me a reason to support the drowning one then, I'll support this suggestion 100 fold.

When they are unfortunate enough to meet me (Ranger) in water, sometimes people go under water, as my arrows are harder to land because of the water's effect on their flight. In cases where they are on the water's surface, I have no need for IceArrow and I DoT them, but when they dive I use Ice and try to drown them. Its the only way I have killed a mastered, armored warrior in solo world pvp so far, although the drowning damage didnt get them, one of my arrows did, so the issue of kill credit did not come up.

 

[leftovers5]

When they are unfortunate enough to meet me (Ranger) in water, sometimes people go under water, as my arrows are harder to land because of the water's effect on their flight. In cases where they are on the water's surface, I have no need for IceArrow and I DoT them, but when they dive I use Ice and try to drown them. Its the only way I have killed a mastered, armored warrior in solo world pvp so far, although the drowning damage didnt get them, one of my arrows did, so the issue of kill credit did not come up.

Fair enough. Barnubus is awarded with the Leftovers5 seal of approval.

 

[arcanegrove]

I would like having Fall DMG give the kill.