Juan_Plays
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Please remove the cool down timers, they unbalance everything, in my opinion, or make classes with axes and swords deal more damage
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Suggestion 1.9 Class Balance Feedback thread.
- Thread starter Kainzo
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LarryDeCable
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Okay heres my recommendation on paladin.
All warrior classes are getting a buff, and thats all okay but it puts paladin in a messy spot.
Paladin runs on heals and sustain. With warriors getting such a damage increase it is going to be so hard to stay in the fight. Paladin was already in a bad place with magic classes, it was completely destroyed by them. Just increasing the damage by 10 isn't going to account for all the damage dealt by Warriors and Mages. DK has got a HUGE buff, even though its supposed to be paladin's counter part. Its already tanky, and has lifesteal but it does a TON of damage. Paladin sincerely needs a buff if its going to be a playable class
Heres my recommended changes
Damage with Sword 52 > 82
Absolution heal heals from 150 + 3.5 per wisdom > 100+ 7 per wisdom
Increase magic resist
All warrior classes are getting a buff, and thats all okay but it puts paladin in a messy spot.
Paladin runs on heals and sustain. With warriors getting such a damage increase it is going to be so hard to stay in the fight. Paladin was already in a bad place with magic classes, it was completely destroyed by them. Just increasing the damage by 10 isn't going to account for all the damage dealt by Warriors and Mages. DK has got a HUGE buff, even though its supposed to be paladin's counter part. Its already tanky, and has lifesteal but it does a TON of damage. Paladin sincerely needs a buff if its going to be a playable class
Heres my recommended changes
Damage with Sword 52 > 82
Absolution heal heals from 150 + 3.5 per wisdom > 100+ 7 per wisdom
Increase magic resist
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So you want paladin to have the second highest sword damage, right behind ninja? No thanks
FaZeAlpine
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What are you on about this time?
Only two warrior classes are getting buffed, Dreadknight and Berserker:
Paladin: --- SAME
Increase diamond sword damage from 41->51.25
Samurai: --- SAME
Increase diamond sword damage from 60.8->76
Dreadknight: --- BUFFED
Increase diamond axe damage from 52->104
Decrease SoulLeech mana cost 100->75 --- BUFF
Decrease Atrophy mana cost 100->75 --- BUFF
Decrease Empathy mana cost 125->100 --- BUFF
Dragoon: --- NERFED
Increase diamond shovel damage from 56->121.6
Increase Jump cooldown from 7.5->9 --- NERF
Increase Jump Stamina 300->400 --- NERF
Lower piercingstrike from 50% weapon damage to 25% (to compensate for the left click increase) --- NERF
Lower cleave from 50% weapon damage to 25% (to compensate for the left click increase) --- NERF
Berserker: --- BUFFED
Increase diamond axe damage from 58.8->117.6
Increase BloodDrinker's max hp gained 200-275 --- BUFF
Have you read ANY of the posts on the last two pages? In the words of Kanye West Ft. Pablo:
ATTACK COOLDOWN IS A THING IN 1.9
ATTACK COOLDOWN IS A THING IN 1.9
ATTACK COOLDOWN IS A THING IN 1.9
ATTACK COOLDOWN IS A THING IN 1.9
ATTACK COOLDOWN IS A THING IN 1.9
ATTACK COOLDOWN IS A THING IN 1.9
Larry's Proposed DPS Values
Paladin DPS: 131.2 --- GOLD MEDAL
Samurai's DPS: 121.6 --- SILVER MEDAL
Dreadknight's DPS: 104 --- LOSER
Dragoon's DPS: 121.6 --- SILVER MEDAL
Berserker's DPS: 117.6 --- BRONZE MEDAL
THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU AREN'T MOD OR BALANCE TEAM
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LarryDeCable
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@FaZeAlpine @Irishman81
Rip
I don't want the dps that high, don't have a great understanding on 1.9 CD timers
I want the dps like 89? Not even sure if that's good
I think magic resist buff is fine? Thoughts on that
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FaZeAlpine
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Scaling that high can easily get out of hand, especially with tier two classes and stat buffs could make absolution get completely out of hand.
Ice
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R O A S T E D @LarryDeCable
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I started typing this came back and said the same thing twice nice
LarryDeCable
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And @Irishman81 ignoring the absolution buff now what can we do with magic resist
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Magic Res comes from Constitution.
We could add more Con, but that would buff their HP too.
LarryDeCable
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I have some ideas about exactly that and some professions for tonight's meeting. I'll talk to you later about what's possible
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please for the love of god add summonfood back to Beguiler
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I mean beguiler only has 10 skills where wizard has a lot more, I don't see why not.
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it can be in compensation for removing shields theres an excuse right there
Juan_Plays
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What about other classes that use swords and axes, like Shaman And Pyro, shouldn't they get a buff if they want to stay in the fight?
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Ice
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Aight so a bit of a rant here but it beats me making a whole thread about it.
It bothers me that Pyro is getting nerfed hardest in its mobility where the problem is that it still oneshots even after these nerfs. If you want to fix pyro, dont hit the wrong spots although I have an idea for InfernoFlash.
Anyways. Greatcombustion is the main problem here. Other casters set up skills do either little or no damage, and thats the problem with Greatcombustion.
Lower GC base to 45. Scaling to 1.
Infernoflash should be changed to where its BASE distance is set to 4 blocks, with the same .1 scaling. Irish was right earlier, Pyro shouldnt have a Wizard blink. This shorter blink should put it more in line with the melee/caster skirmisher. Also lower the cooldown to 8 seconds. Mana cost is fine imo
And just for the record, Ive played Pyro for two maps, so claiming that I just want my class to be in the "spotlight" and wanting different nerfs is wrong because its gone relatively unchanged until this map
It bothers me that Pyro is getting nerfed hardest in its mobility where the problem is that it still oneshots even after these nerfs. If you want to fix pyro, dont hit the wrong spots although I have an idea for InfernoFlash.
Anyways. Greatcombustion is the main problem here. Other casters set up skills do either little or no damage, and thats the problem with Greatcombustion.
Lower GC base to 45. Scaling to 1.
Infernoflash should be changed to where its BASE distance is set to 4 blocks, with the same .1 scaling. Irish was right earlier, Pyro shouldnt have a Wizard blink. This shorter blink should put it more in line with the melee/caster skirmisher. Also lower the cooldown to 8 seconds. Mana cost is fine imo
And just for the record, Ive played Pyro for two maps, so claiming that I just want my class to be in the "spotlight" and wanting different nerfs is wrong because its gone relatively unchanged until this map