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Trade District Shops

comfyfutons

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I feel like there should be a one shop per player rule... especially if there aren't going to be any more shops opening.
It seems like I've never seen an available shop and it kinda sucks when you see 8 shops owned by the same person.
 

Xargun

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I feel like there should be a one shop per player rule... especially if there aren't going to be any more shops opening.
It seems like I've never seen an available shop and it kinda sucks when you see 8 shops owned by the same person.

Exactly - if there won't be anymore then everyone should be limited to 1 shop.
 

Angyles

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The limit was made at 5, and I do believe Gabi had stated it would stay at 5.

Not saying I agree with it mind you, I just believe that is what he said.
 

Danda

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Ok - can we get an official (Admin) confirmation please on the future of new trade shops and limit? @gabizou @Danda
We cannot limit to one shop per player when we plan on releasing Spawn housing, rent-able advert signs and other things like that which would use the same plugin to manage the rent.
 

comfyfutons

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We cannot limit to one shop per player when we plan on releasing Spawn housing, rent-able advert signs and other things like that which would use the same plugin to manage the rent.

In theory a rule such as that could be non-plugin enforced like many of the other rules on the server
 

ShadowRavynn

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SSSSOOOOOOOO...

The Trade Shop Mafia strikes again!

I know everyone is busy, however, is there not someone who can release a few TD shops at a time?! It is absolutely ridiculous to try to get a shop... you have a crowd of people all trying to get the very same shop at the moment it goes up for rent. You have people trolling others and ninja-renting shops just so another player cannot rent them, and then you have people trying to let a shop go up for rent so a different player can rent them.... and then, because so many people are trying to ninja the shop, the current owner is forced to renew the shop to "save it" for the person they are trying to let have it.

It is not fair to the population of the server who want to have a Trade District Shop and be able to sell wares safely. And there are TONS of players wanting TD shops.

I know because you have to region, etc that only Admins can do this, @Kainzo but due to the dire need of TD Shops, is there not a way that you can let ANYone else help out with this task? I know I am not an Admin, nor am I staff, but I would be willing to discuss this on TS with Kainzo or another Admin, if I could be let to help out or someone else if someone else has time to help ... I don't have the answer to this since I am not staff and don't really see much staff online at all these days except for Angyles and Thamerwaste...

I know a couple days ago Danda said he fixed what was wrong with the TD Shops... so now it seems to be just a matter of no one has the spare time to region more...

I am sure you are all aware of the chaos that ensues when a shop is up for renewal or renting, but check out some screenies....


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archceaser

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I completely agree, i know we have been told the admin are busy but this is getting totally out of hand.
 

Dakinara

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On a serious note, I would personally make a rule when you do decide to open up new shops that no character can own more than two shops or something to that effect. I know you cant enforce it through the plugin, but im sure youd have more than enough people monitoring this for you lol. Could make some kind of grandfather clause for existing shops, but if existing shop owners decide they want additional shops, would have to give up some of existing ones to meet requirement.
 

Danda

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On a serious note, I would personally make a rule when you do decide to open up new shops that no character can own more than two shops or something to that effect. I know you cant enforce it through the plugin, but im sure youd have more than enough people monitoring this for you lol. Could make some kind of grandfather clause for existing shops, but if existing shop owners decide they want additional shops, would have to give up some of existing ones to meet requirement.
honestly that's a terrible solution.
  1. 80-90% of petitions would be false positives due to no one knowing who was grandfathered in
  2. How would we keep track of whether people would drop existing plots or not to pick up a new one?
  3. We can enforce it through the plugin but that would evict players who already own too many shops.
  4. This would not solve players buying shops on behalf of another player which I know already happens to get around the present limit
 

Xargun

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I can volunteer some time to Region shops if help is needed. It will be time consuming, but I for one would love a TD shop for my son so he quits bugging me about it. So if you need some temporary help setting up regions let me know I can volunteer some time.
 

Yavool

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From @Kainzo on Nov 22:

http://herocraftonline.com/main/threads/tradedistrict-monopoly-of-trade.47025/#post-375429

@Xanipher - if there are trade shops that can be regioned lets do it.

@Danda @gabizou

That was 2 weeks ago.

He has said specifically, that if the admins can't do it, he would do it personally. Perhaps it has come to that time?

After a small expansion was granted about 5 weeks ago, I requested through both petition and direct personal message alike for the last month to get more shops in. Those in HC who wish to participate in the trade district should be allowed to participate. Those who are already participating should be allowed to expand their wares. The bottleneck has been in place since the first day shops were available in Haven.

And yes, I was there also to try to snipe that potentially-open trade shop. It looks like it had been renewed the minute before I got there. It's ridiculous that we are having to bend our real life (I had an alarm clock set to wake me a minute before this shop was set to expire) to get a shot at a single shop with a half dozen people who are just wanting to buy and sell on the server.

There's no reason to limit the number of shops a vendor has SO AS LONG as 1) the owners of the shops are using them and not just squatting on them; and 2) the houses, huts, and areas at Spawn are actually regioned for sale as they should be. HC policy will dictate whether 1) can or should be enforced; but 2) has been and continues to be entirely under the discretionary decision of those who have the power to region the shops.

We ask (once again for the dozenth time) to make this a priority *please*.

Thank you,

-yav
 

Angyles

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I can volunteer some time to Region shops if help is needed. It will be time consuming, but I for one would love a TD shop for my son so he quits bugging me about it. So if you need some temporary help setting up regions let me know I can volunteer some time.


That would be admin perms, not sure they would be handing those out.

I think Danda has plans to region more shops this weekend. It is first come first serve however, nothing will be saved for people.
 

Danda

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That would be admin perms, not sure they would be handing those out.

I think Danda has plans to region more shops this weekend. It is first come first serve however, nothing will be saved for people.
This is dependent on whether I'm able to fix my newly arisen Graphics Driver issues preventing me from logging in at present.
 

Xargun

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That would be admin perms, not sure they would be handing those out.

I think Danda has plans to region more shops this weekend. It is first come first serve however, nothing will be saved for people.

I didn't know if there was some special region rights they could temporarily grant to some people to help out. Don't want to be an Admin - to many of us players complain to much to them about something they provide us for free :) i would not be anywhere near as nice as the Staff is to players ....
 

Xargun

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From @Kainzo on Nov 22:

There's no reason to limit the number of shops a vendor has SO AS LONG as 1) the owners of the shops are using them and not just squatting on them; and 2) the houses, huts, and areas at Spawn are actually regioned for sale as they should be. HC policy will dictate whether 1) can or should be enforced; but 2) has been and continues to be entirely under the discretionary decision of those who have the power to region the shops.

We ask (once again for the dozenth time) to make this a priority *please*.

Thank you,

-yav

A lot of the shops I go in are either empty or have 1 chest setup that of course it out of stock. or just LWC'd.
 

ShadowRavynn

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I didn't know if there was some special region rights they could temporarily grant to some people to help out. Don't want to be an Admin - to many of us players complain to much to them about something they provide us for free :) i would not be anywhere near as nice as the Staff is to players ....

I also have volunteered to help out on many occasions. Should be easy enough to grant temporary rights to certain people so they can help with some things that are obviously in dire need of help.

and thank you to those of you who are supportive of this thread. Its just a tad bit absolutely retarded that I had to get a bounty placed on me and called various bad names etc just because I wanted a shop. BUT KIDS WILL BE KIDS EH?!?!?!

 
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