[Town] Canterlot [77]{Neutral}

[victim130]

This conflict is just like Skyrim. (And to a further extent, the American Civil War) Both sides have a fair reason to go to war, and each side think they're right.

First first side, Xexorian's side, is just like the imperials. The imperials fight for their empire, and they want to keep it together. They think that the other side's leader is a traitorous scum that leads his army under lies. That's basically true, right?

The second side, Canterlot, is just like the Stormcloaks. The leader of one hold (or in this case town) has branched off from the empire after insulting (killing for Ulfric) the other side's leader(s). Several other holds (or towns) join him. The reasons for the leader may be corrupt, but the citizens think they are fighting for a just cause.

Now before you say, "That's completely false, you're wrong!" Think about it. I'm right, or you haven't played Skyrim (Which I highly recommend, Skyrim is amazing.) Now, what is the point of me saying this?

No matter what, both sides are going to be hurt. If Xexorian's side wins, then Canterlot is crushed, new leaders are established, and EtEKen is killed (or well, leaves the server). If Canterlot wins, then they secede from them and a strong feud is made. (Not like skyrim there, though) Each side is going to have friends who become enemies, just because of some petty political problems. People who want to stay neutral, like me, are going to be forced onto a side that they don't want to be on. Unfortunately, most people on Herocraft are hungry for blood and are very PvP orientated. This war will happen, but I urge you to try your hardest to make it less bad.

Please note that I rambled and didn't explain this that well. I'm trying to be unbiased here.

tl;dr This war is like skyrim. Also people are going to get hurt, a lot.

You are right, and with that, I am the Dovakiin and I have sided with the Empire.

 

[Fjordsen]

Guys, it's a game. There is no way we are coming back. We won't die. I won't quit. Canterlot will have its freedom. Camping outside our walls won't change that. I was not even considering leaving XD yesterday untill a Victim comes out of nowhere and kills everyone he sees. Then xexo support him and therefore support that XD was in fact betraying Canterlot.

After reading those 2 pages, how comes none of XD's council members even know who FE is? FE is far superior to XD in any way. The capital of XD is a crater. The capital of FE is beatiful. I remember visiting FE many times and all I see is a beatiful and well-structured kingdom.

There is no reason to go to war. I was leaving i peace after being betrayed by Newerth. Nevermore shows up and attack us with the support of Newerth.

@Haxnn @WoleverEntun We should form KoE again, xexo sure wouldn't like that xD

XD is the new hotspot for PvP. Too bad i don't share my old interest for pvp now. I wish we could do this the diplomatic and peaceful way, but when you show no sign to negotiate at all...

XD just lost 40% of its active playerbase. If BG and LF leaves, XD will concist of the two inactive towns Nevermore and Newerth.

Also xexo, you are behaving bad for a staff member. Bashing, flaming and lying is some bad traits that staff shouldn't have.

 

[Symbolite]

So I take a day off from Herocraft and all the shit has hit the fan.

Just read through this whole thread and I saw a lot of mention of princes and what they were. Simply it is a line of people who would assume King of the Kingdom if Xexo were to step down.

There seems to be some issues about how these people were picked so I will explain that too. Basically the XD Kingdom is composed of 3 Kingdom's from the Sanctum map era. NEO, KRS, and KOE. These Kingdom's were led by Xanipher, Gabizou and I believe WoleverEntun may have been a leader back then or at least high up. Anyway moving onto Zeal NEO and KRS joined together to create the OS Kingdom led again by King and Queen Gabi and Xani. KOE never made it to Kingdom status and I believe ended up joining OS in the final months of the map. On Dragongarde, this map, Gabi became inactive and thus had to step down. Xanipher becoming an Admin could no longer act as a player and had to step down as well. This left Xexorian next in line for KRS, and me next in line for NEO, and Wole leading Lightforge left him next in line for KOE. So that is why Xexorian is King, and Wole and myself are princes. Drastikos was named a prince because he would be next on the KRS side, since Xexo was already supposed to be next.

So that explains how that whole system works. Now let me explain what these positions mean in terms of power right now. The answer to that is absolutely nothing. Its just a fancy title. I'm Mayor of Newerth, being Prince of XD gives me no more power than I already have, and its the same for everyone else.

Now onto the conflict that's taking place, I won't comment here right now as my leading style is more behind the scenes and less vocal than some of the other leaders in this Kingdom. So to those that my message will actually concern expect to be hearing from me in PM's.

 

[Dwarfers]

Raubtier has 23 citizens about, we are not a big community really as you actually state. We respect each other, someone spawns a mooshroom in the town nobody ever kills it for maybe 1-2 months. We do the same with our allies respect and protect. If an ally is in danger, we help them. You don't have to include all of FE into this if there would be a war, if a town in FE does not want to get involved, they do not have to. Raubtier will get involved if anything does happen soon, and they will not be aiding those who recently attacked Canterlot.

 

[Symbolite]

XD just lost 40% of its active playerbase. If BG and LF leaves, XD will concist of the two inactive towns Nevermore and Newerth.
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Also concerning that last post. Newerth is no where near inactive, it is what I make it to be.

 

[Fjordsen]

So I take a day off from Herocraft and all the shit has hit the fan.

Just read through this whole thread and I saw a lot of mention of princes and what they were. Simply it is a line of people who would assume King of the Kingdom if Xexo were to step down.

There seems to be some issues about how these people were picked so I will explain that too. Basically the XD Kingdom is composed of 3 Kingdom's from the Sanctum map era. NEO, KRS, and KOE. These Kingdom's were led by Xanipher, Gabizou and I believe WoleverEntun may have been a leader back then or at least high up. Anyway moving onto Zeal NEO and KRS joined together to create the OS Kingdom led again by King and Queen Gabi and Xani. KOE never made it to Kingdom status and I believe ended up joining OS in the final months of the map. On Dragongarde, this map, Gabi became inactive and thus had to step down. Xanipher becoming an Admin could no longer act as a player and had to step down as well. This left Xexorian next in line for KRS, and me next in line for NEO, and Wole leading Lightforge left him next in line for KOE. So that is why Xexorian is King, and Wole and myself are princes. Drastikos was named a prince because he would be next on the KRS side, since Xexo was already supposed to be next.

So that explains how that whole system works. Now let me explain what these positions mean in terms of power right now. The answer to that is absolutely nothing. Its just a fancy title. I'm Mayor of Newerth, being Prince of XD gives me no more power than I already have, and its the same for everyone else.

Now onto the conflict that's taking place, I won't comment here right now as my leading style is more behind the scenes and less vocal than some of the other leaders in this Kingdom. So to those that my message will actually concern expect to be hearing from me in PM's.

Past maps shouldn't affect what happens now.

With that logic I can say: "I lead the town Camelot in Zeal. Camelot was completly neutral with no allies, therefore i'm not going to be in a Kingdom" or "I was the leader of Camelot, i demand being a prince because of my power last map"

Do you see how stupid it looks like? Now back to what happens now, the past are for memories, not politics.

 

[Dwarfers]

Yeah, Newerth has recently become more active I noticed.

 

[Symbolite]

Past maps shouldn't affect what happens now.

With that logic I can say: "I lead the town Camelot in Zeal. Camelot was completly neutral with no allies, therefore i'm not going to be in a Kingdom" or "I was the leader of Camelot, i demand being a prince because of my power last map"

Do you see how stupid it looks like? Now back to what happens now, the past are for memories, not politics.

Yes you led the town Camelot on Zeal but unfortunately you weren't part of this Kingdom back then so you guys were like the new group this map. That doesn't mean you had no power in the Kingdom, each town had a mayor and sic in our council thread and I bet as time went on you probably would have been named a prince of your individual community as the rest of us were. But like I said the title is nothing more than a title, it offers no more extra power than you already have as leader of your own town with a seat on the council. Just like mine offers me no more power.

Yeah, Newerth has recently become more active I noticed.

Trust me, it's not inactive, I'm online almost everyday and regularly see people online.

 

[MajorasMask]

MajorasMask you are nothing. You are no body. You mean nothing to Xandria Dominion, and you are Kill on Sight from the entire kingdom. You betray every town you are a part of, not to mention do very suspicious and illegal things to others. You are a traitor, you were born a traitor, you will always be a traitor.

You are not even a citizen of XD so anything you say is totally spreading propaganda and lies. However, here too you will get your chance.



I didn't actually rage. This is completely falsehood. Canterlot got tired of the way we're doing things? Maybe he should've been planning how he leaves a little better than deciding to just piss off everyone and hope things go over smoothly.



The 'grand council' structure has never restricted Canterlot or it's rules. There are only a handful of kingdom-wide rules, the primary one being All citizens must sell gold to THEIR town for 8c. How is that restricting? It helps your town out, and we all agreed to this rule. You can't even name the other 2 Kingdom rules. I bet you don't even know them.



We are unofficially a kingdom, because last I checked we had about 150 citizens, that were ACTIVELY playing. We don't call each other Kings, they call me King. Our oldest, and most veteran players took leadership roles over our townships, and we began here to work on a collective effort called "Dragon Empire" But you know NOTHING about us, or our plans. Do not speak about fight club, worm.



There weren't any rules, Canterlot's mayor got on his thread (read last few pages) and talked a bunch of shit to all of us. I am defending them, though I am sure with some more time they will all post their own replies to this. Some already have. I showed up at Canterlot to see why victim was attacking. Oh, because Ken insulted him and XD. Sound's fair to me.



This is pretty much what happens to close towns that try to raid us with their 10 noobs and 4 or 5 veteran players. Total Destruction.



I spread no "Propaganda" I told people to read this forum thead and then quit talking. I said how Ken was lieing to you guys and started all of this with his disrespectful bullshit towards us. No one read the forum, so no one knows why it's happening, and all they get out of ken and you and others is that I'm spreading "Propaganda". LOL. Oh, and it didn't fail, judgedread and other citizens of CT called me childish, not the general public.



I almost stopped caring/reading.



This is a serious game. It is not a game of thrones, there is only one throne. Mine.

Second, No we did not raid Canterlot, we just killed anyone that came out - and will continue to do so - until they surrender and elect a new mayor.

Third, they attacked all XD towns except BG because he is all buddy-buddy with them. He also claimed to have been the cause for WoleverEntun's prince-hood.

Fourth, I never said anything was wrong with CT.

Fifth, They are free to do what they want. Just not talk shit to us and try to leave in such a way, then in-game whisper every citizen of the Dominion and try lieing to them about what was actually gone on for sympathy votes. Fuck off, that's pathetic as hell.

Sixth, I want an apology, and I want him out of mayor-ship of a town that's less than 200 blocks away from mine. There will be no peace now, after all that has transpired, and more yet to come. Peace will only happen when our demands are met. He wants to be Neutral anyway so his little noobs can just attack all of our XD towns with impunity. Fuck that, 'good' township my ass, he just wants to rebel, and he wants to fight people, because he's too scared to come out of his little glass box and hunt down XD's enemies.

I don't know where you come from, but down here in the south when a dog bites the owner's hand. It's a bad dog. When the dog doesn't behave normally and barks too much and keeps you awake at night. It's a bad dog. When you've done everything you can to try and make this dog a good dog and it still growls and snarls at you. It's a bad dog.

Down here?
Bad dogs get shot. In the face.

WOW you take this game too seriously!

 

[MajorasMask]

I'll say it again, this is not 'FE's' problem. You guys should stay out of our conflict, less you want to get caught in the crossfire. EtKEnn said he wanted to attack whoever he want and do what he wants, he just so happened to target his own kingdom, so he will be punished.

FE choose to do what they wish. If they want to help us, so be it. If they don't, we be it.

We like all support we can get. We wish to part from your abusive nature and desire for control. As Dielan says, you just want a new Canterlot leader to take over EtKen's position; literally to go back to your poxy council rules and power systems.

 

[victim130]

Past maps shouldn't affect what happens now.

With that logic I can say: "I lead the town Camelot in Zeal. Camelot was completly neutral with no allies, therefore i'm not going to be in a Kingdom" or "I was the leader of Camelot, i demand being a prince because of my power last map"

Do you see how stupid it looks like? Now back to what happens now, the past are for memories, not politics.

Actually, Camelot was essentially a baby town of NEO because of Droowid. And lineage helps us stay alive and such is needed.

 

[victim130]

FE choose to do what they wish. If they want to help us, so be it. If they don't, we be it.

We like all support we can get. We wish to part from your abusive nature and desire for control. As Dielan says, you just want a new Canterlot leader to take over EtKen's position; literally to go back to your poxy council rules and power systems.

We let them do what they wanted and gave them stuff we probably shouldn't have, we were a network of friends until KEnn decided to bad mouth us all. It has nothing to do with power no matter how many times you try to say it is. Its about keeping the community of friends in check so to keep it safe from treason. KEnn showed treason and so needs a timeout so that Canterlot can come back.

 

[victim130]

Although if force must be applied, it will be.

 

[Dwarfers]

I don't see the need to attack one of your own kingdom towns to settle a situation like this...

 

[MajorasMask]

We let them do what they wanted and gave them stuff we probably shouldn't have, we were a network of friends until KEnn decided to bad mouth us all. It has nothing to do with power no matter how many times you try to say it is. Its about keeping the community of friends in check so to keep it safe from treason. KEnn showed treason and so needs a timeout so that Canterlot can come back.

Well, he doesn't like the ''Community'' of friends. He has his own opinion, so what if he doesn't like many leaders in the kingdom? As for Canterlot, he owns it, so you can't just take it off him. I don't see any reason for him to leave, he has both mine and FE's support on this, alongside others. He has a good town too, I LOVE the castle @EtKEnn. Better than my idea by a long shot.

 

[victim130]

Well, he doesn't like the ''Community'' of friends. He has his own opinion, so what if he doesn't like many leaders in the kingdom? As for Canterlot, he owns it, so you can't just take it off him. I don't see any reason for him to leave, he has both mine and FE's support on this, alongside others. He has a good town too, I LOVE the castle @EtKEnn. Better than my idea by a long shot.

When he calms down, I'm sure he'll change his mind, I've already calmed myself down and I'm thinking differently. I won't lie, I began to like CT after my previous feud. I even like to think I'm the reason KEnn went Sammy, but if he hates me so much, I might have to cry myself to sleep. :'(

@EtKEnn If you want a second chance at this, I'm sure once Xexo calms down you can talk it over, rage changes thought patterns.

 

[victim130]

Oh on a warning to everyone, including Xexo and all other members of HC, don't rub shit in my face, I'll kill you and your whole town. Thus why this shit started in the first place.

 

[MajorasMask]

Oh on a warning to everyone, including Xexo and all other members of HC, don't rub shit in my face, I'll kill you and your whole town. Thus why this shit started in the first place.

Wow, DEFINITELY no God Complex there.

When he calms down, I'm sure he'll change his mind, I've already calmed myself down and I'm thinking differently. I won't lie, I began to like CT after my previous feud. I even like to think I'm the reason KEnn went Sammy, but if he hates me so much, I might have to cry myself to sleep. :'(

@EtKEnn If you want a second chance at this, I'm sure once Xexo calms down you can talk it over, rage changes thought patterns.

Well in that case, EtKEnn has'nt been ''calm'' in months. I spoke to him about XD months ago, he said he wasn't too fond of you guys at all. Don't expect that his sudden expression of disapproval to XD is something new. He never has really liked the way you do things. He is as calm as the rest of us. There would be no ''calming down'' for him to do that will make him think your poxy ''Kingdom'' is anything special.

@EtKEnn I like the idea of you guys joining with FE! You are close enough to make Canterlot a 'Sub-Town' to the kingdom. This basically means you'd be a part of the kingdom, but just further away from the other towns.

 

[victim130]

@EtKEnn Don't listen to me or Majora, go make a choice, but know that we were once your friends and I'm more than sure in time we will accept you back (I've done a lot of rebel work myself in the past, I know this) Majora was once a traitor. It seems like he is trying to cause conflict by trolling XD and keeping you angry with us. Take it for what you will and go your way. And in doing so, I will go my way too, which hopefully isn't the destruction of CT. (If you leave, leave on a good note.)

 

[Fjordsen]

When he calms down, I'm sure he'll change his mind, I've already calmed myself down and I'm thinking differently. I won't lie, I began to like CT after my previous feud. I even like to think I'm the reason KEnn went Sammy, but if he hates me so much, I might have to cry myself to sleep. :'(

@EtKEnn If you want a second chance at this, I'm sure once Xexo calms down you can talk it over, rage changes thought patterns.

Zachimon and Shadowall @Acherous Convinced me in the start of the map to go Samurai. The DPS man!