Rogues need some love.

[epicwin324]

Does anyone know how long the server will be offline for? *OFFTOPIC*

 

[RedKhan]

Fuck me. Edit your previous post?

 

[Doogler]

Ninjas can go completely invisable, thats probably the best pvp skill on the server. I wouldnt be asking for more

 

[ForTehZZZ]

Rogues need more? Are you sure? They can already use /sneak... -.- And iron swords.

Also, they can become some of the most useful specialized heros in the game. They can use arrows, track, barrage, a sh*t load of wolf assistance...

Why do they need more? In my opinion, they don't. The major bit is the arrows - they are very useful in PvP.

 

[epicwin324]

I guess. You just look at warriors and they have the jump ability, so shouldn't NINJAS?
I'm not really complaining and I think rogues are great. But casters have around 10 abilities, where no rogues go over 5. So there is definitely room for improvement.

 

[jmoney222]

Well I mean once you're in that mode, there would have to be like a 15-20 block up restriction until you just dropped. So as long as people made bigger city walls, there's no problem. Plus, it would be mainly used for climbing through windows left open or exposed balconies

In that case (if they're gonna climb through open windows/exposed balconies) that ability should go to Thieves.

 

[RedKhan]

Just my thoughts:

Warriors - Should have defensive skills, preventing/lowering damage - and the ability to use decent weapons and armour (Iron)
Spec - Access to further defensive/offensive skills and diamond swords.

Rogues - Should be sneaky/quick with unorthodox methods of dealing damage (Poison?) But no instant huge Dps. Should have access to light armour (Leather) and decent weapons (Iron).
Spec - Improved skills for either mobility (Sprint, climb, safefall, track) or damage (Wolves, throwing stars, arrows) and access to better offensive weaponry (Diamond)

So basically, warriors as you'd expect would win in a head on fight. But with the element of surprise(Sneak), or starting at a distance, Rogue's would win out. Thoughts?

 

[colley619]

the wall climb would prolly be to powerful unless it had a time restriction or something, being able to claim any wall would make city walls useless

not really. lets say when u use it, they can make it one of 2 ways... either u can do it until your mana runs out, or make it to where you can only climb one wall. so if a city wall had a 1 block overhang, then people couldnt climb over it :].?

 

[Justaz101]

Even if you have the element of surprise vs a warrior with a Diamond sword and Iron armor, you would lose.

 

[colley619]

Just my thoughts:

Warriors - Should have defensive skills, preventing/lowering damage - and the ability to use decent weapons and armour (Iron)
Spec - Access to further defensive/offensive skills and diamond swords.

Rogues - Should be sneaky/quick with unorthodox methods of dealing damage (Poison?) But no instant huge Dps. Should have access to light armour (Leather) and decent weapons (Iron).
Spec - Improved skills for either mobility (Sprint, climb, safefall, track) or damage (Wolves, throwing stars, arrows) and access to better offensive weaponry (Diamond)

So basically, warriors as you'd expect would win in a head on fight. But with the element of surprise(Sneak), or starting at a distance, Rogue's would win out. Thoughts?

well... rogues should have diamond. definately.

 

[RedKhan]

Even if you have the element of surprise vs a warrior with a Diamond sword and Iron armor, you would lose.

Not true, thats at least 1 free hit, that's a 5.5 damage lead, plus whatever else you might get from skills.
That takes the diamond armour down to below iron armour points wise.

EDIT: I think it's just common sense that in a straight fight, warriors should win. The rogue should have those other more interesting skills for a reason, not to make them OP.

 

[Doogler]

Rogues need more? Are you sure? They can already use /sneak... -.- And iron swords.

Also, they can become some of the most useful specialized heros in the game. They can use arrows, track, barrage, a sh*t load of wolf assistance...

Why do they need more? In my opinion, they don't. The major bit is the arrows - they are very useful in PvP.

Rangers dont get iron swords....and you say arrows are a major bit? You haven't used arrows on the server other wise you wouldnt say that. With the lag you must be one lucky sob to be able to hit somone because only 1/7 arrows actually deals damage and its even harder to predict where some one is gonna be with all the arrow lag.

 

[ForTehZZZ]

I have seen arrows do a lot of damage. Lag is not that bad with arrows recently, saw someone use it today. Not that much of a problem.

 

[Doogler]

Recently, the server just came up and there wasn't max number of players online.

 

[malmenca]

I feel as if the class balance isnt as much a problem as is the like 6+ skills for casters compared to the thief having 2 I believe. And i think rogues are more played then casters(or i just see more)

 

[malmenca]

And doogler is right. If u have a bow u will not hit people but 1 outta 10 times even aimed perfectly. Rangers are at a severe disadvantage. The only reason i would consider ranger would ofcourse be track but even still now im tracking down someone with a stone aword...

 

[Doogler]

And doogler is right. If u have a bow u will not hit people but 1 outta 10 times even aimed perfectly. Rangers are at a severe disadvantage. The only reason i would consider ranger would ofcourse be track but even still now im tracking down someone with a stone aword...

Yeah im not sure why rangers need to be disgraced with a stone swords while all other specs get iron and diamond. I hope Kainzo sees this

 

[malmenca]

At least iron is reasonable. Diamond might be unfair if bows were decent

 

[Papabear20xd6]

the key word is if bows were decent. un armored arrows do 2 hearts. Now if ur armored I'm not sure if its less or not but i think it is. The range on bows is shit. I'm pretty good at compinsating for gravity but trying to do that on a moving target while trying to move yourself is retarded. Ya Rangers are completely crippled. It sucks because i am on and i'm not sure if its worth sticking with or re specing or even going to caster which seems to have a lot of abilities.

Side topic omfg fireball is gay. bind it to a sword and swing right click swing right click anyone is dead. You are better then most melee. How is that fair?

 

[eisbaerBorealis]

As an Alchemist, it's hard to take anyone seriously when they say that they hardly have any skills.