Suggestion 1.9 Class Balance Feedback thread.

[Irishman81]

Since the balance team doesn't like to talk right now ninja and dragoon both have the ability to get out of every single situation with 5 seconds on their jump and backflip this needs to be increased to 7 or 8 seconds.

Another thing as of now disciple damage needs an increase because it take a very long time to kill classes with low tier armor with its current damage being at 37.

One more day don't worry. You guys could have done stuff without me lol

 

[Delikin]

Just wanted to add that Samurai/Honorblade's parrymagic and Runeblade/Runewraith's devour magic do not actually work on any magic spells aside from bolt. This is pretty important for both their kits as it's their main way of fighting casters and they kind of cant without them.

 

[joshtsai]

One more day don't worry. You guys could have done stuff without me lol

Done every class now has lay hands and harmtouch

 

[RegularHumanMode]

Done every class now has lay hands and harmtouch

I approve.

 

[Leo2596]

One more day don't worry. You guys could have done stuff without me lol

Lol I tried, but im only one voice

 

[Leo2596]

List of skills that need to be added to parry magic

1. Despair
2. EndlessNightMare
3. Smite
4. Wrath
5. Ire
6. Firestrike totem
7. Shock Totem
8. ShockingStrike
9. EarthernFury
10. Windgale
11. ChainLightning
12. SiphonBlood
13. Combustblood
14. BoilBlood
15. BloodBeam
16. Soulleech
17. Atrophy
18. Empathy
19. Harmtouch
20. Dreadaura
21. Desecration
22. Consecration
23. DivineStun
24. Reckoning
25. Forcepull
26. Forcepush
27. Envenom
28. Blitz
29. Blind
30. Infernoblade
31. Murasame
32. ToxicRune
33. Duskblade
34. VoidRune
35. FireRune
36. IceRune
37. Melodicbinding
38. BoastfulBellow
39. VoidSong
40. DoomstarRequiem
41. ExplosiveShot
42. InfernoOrb
43. DragonsBreath
44. DarkBolt
45. GreatCombustion
46. Doomwave
47. Firestorm
48. Fireball
49. Icebolt
50. Pulse
51. Bolt
52. Megabolt
53. ArcaneBlast
54. ArcaneStorm
55. Blizzard
56. Plaguebomb
57. Chronophage
58. Bonespear
59. Decay
60. Drainsoul
61. Plague
62. Kotesu
63. Ashura

Some of these skills might not be in the game because I made this list a couple months ago.

 

[Rumblestikk]

I feel that sword melee classes still have an advantage over others.

Something to do with Efficiency and the swing timer.

 

[0xNaomi]

Alright, I mass checked every skill @lionsarefish listed, ~46 weren't magical so I added it to them.
A test compilation was successful, so the change appears to have applied just fine.

This doesn't technically guarantee they'll all work with DevourMagic/the other one but should at least increase the success rate.

PS. Leo, capitalize properly. I had to fix a bunch of capitalization and that wasted time

 

[Leo2596]

Alright, I mass checked every skill @lionsarefish listed, ~46 weren't magical so I added it to them.
A test compilation was successful, so the change appears to have applied just fine.

This doesn't technically guarantee they'll all work with DevourMagic/the other one but should at least increase the success rate.

PS. Leo, capitalize properly. I had to fix a bunch of capitalization and that wasted time

SoRry ;D

 

[joshtsai]

Short List:
Everyone hates axes classes aside from Pyromancer
Disciple might need left click buff
All warriors apparently suck hard


EDIT: Projectiles seem to have been messed up by 1.9 RIP ranger.

 

[FaZeAlpine]

All warriors apparently suck hard

Except for dragoons and T2 dreadknight

 

[Surefier]

Nerf Magic classes in pvp.
I don't think Magic classes should be able to do that much damage even though its "True" damage. Magic damage isn't the same as true damage yet they can nuke you in 3 abilities.

Wizards don't ever need to use fireball or icebolt, and instead just entangle/bolt/pulse to kill you.
Same with beguilers where they just pigify plague bomb beguil until cds are over.
Pyros seem a little more on the weak side with the skillshot combustion.
Necros can take so much damage while dealing a whole lot with dots/extremely ranged bonespear.

Shamans arent much of a problem but i think the totem should be a little nerfed in damage.

 

[Trazil]

Lol I tried, but im only one voice

I mean I tried getting a balance meeting but everyone said it was useless.

 

[Surefier]

Short List:
Everyone hates axes classes aside from Pyromancer
Disciple might need left click buff
All warriors apparently suck hard


EDIT: Projectiles seem to have been messed up by 1.9 RIP ranger.

Disciples actually dont need a buff in left click. I've fought a couple and they still do major damage because they dont have a CD on their hits.
They also have extremely good utilities like hp on hit/heals etc etc.

 

[Delikin]

@lionsarefish
@0xNaomi

I love both of you so much for fixing this.

 

[Delikin]

Disciples actually dont need a buff in left click. I've fought a couple and they still do major damage because they dont have a CD on their hits.
They also have extremely good utilities like hp on hit/heals etc etc.

I sort of have to agree with you on this one. I have played Disc and they shouldn't be able to fight most warrior classes by themselves, or mages/rouges for that matter. They are still supports and have enough sustain/utility to remain very viable as supports.

 

[radicater11]

The main issue right now is that ninjas and dragoons can out run anything with their short cds on jump and backflip. If a solo ninja can out run a party with a bard on flat land, even after being CC'ed a couple times, we have an issue.

 

[Surefier]

I sort of have to agree with you on this one. I have played Disc and they shouldn't be able to fight most warrior classes by themselves, or mages/rouges for that matter. They are still supports and have enough sustain/utility to remain very viable as supports.

I was raiding with an amazing disciple named Tkrall and with his auto attack heals we never died. We raided a town and got 3v7'ed and got away safely.
they are amazing classes. they dont need a nerf nor a buff. IMO they are the most balance atm

 

[Delikin]

The main issue right now is that ninjas and dragoons can out run anything with their short cds on jump and backflip. If a solo ninja can out run a party with a bard on flat land, even after being CC'ed a couple times, we have an issue.

It's true, you will almost NEVER catch or out run a Dragoon or a Ninja. It's kind of annoying to say the least. They can just get into combat, fight until they get low and just fly away on their magical jump/backflips and you'll never see them again until they come back 30s later with full health again just to annoy you. Their CD's for jump/backflip should seriously be looked at.

 

[Rumblestikk]

Shears need a nerf, with such a low timer all ninjas are using them over diamond swords to avoid 1.9 mechanics.