Suggestion Wizard needs a nerf

[Templar_James]

A good rogue will beat a good wizard any day. Like I've said before, the only problem with wizard atm is it's numbers are a little too high. I think the dmg itself is pretty good. Maybe up the mana/cooldowns

Nah a good wizard can easily beat a good ninja. fireball can be considered a slow/pullback which escape artist doesn't work against

 

[malikdanab]

Nah a good wizard can easily beat a good ninja. fireball can be considered a slow/pullback

In my head it SHOULD work that way. The whole kiting situation with magi is a pain

 

[Jack_Reacher]

Tell me though what wizard lets you get close to them it's so easy to just wait until ninjas uses escape artist and kite with blink and enderpearl. More wizards beat ninjas on this server it's simple

Nah a good wizard can easily beat a good ninja. fireball can be considered a slow/pullback

#SageAdviceFromAProWizard

Don't act like it's such a cut-and-dry situation. Killing a Ninja is the hardest task I've encountered so far. Get too close - you're dead. Get too far, they just Smoke and run out of render distance. There is a happy medium, but it's not "easy".

Also, remember that Blink actually has a longer CD now.

 

[Dakinara]

what the world needs now, is projectile snares, sweet projectile snares
no not just for some . . . but for everyyyyyyyyonnnneeeee

ahahahaha (but seriously a few classes having these would be nice).

 

[lioIIoil]

You have clearly never fought a Ninja as a Wizard. Do you have any idea how effective EscapeArtist is at screwing up a Wizard's combo?

I don't remember the last time a ninja used escape artist.

John I'm sorry to say this but in 1v1s against you I have destroyed you as a dragoon, wizard is not your class because your not good at it. I don't think you have a right to talk about a class you have yet to master.

Are we talking about skill level or balance of wizard? because if we are talking about balance then who wins a 1v1doesn't matter. I wasn't even talking about skill level, I was stating facts about wizards. And yes, I mastered finally wizard. I was a little slow because I have something called a life.

Since you must bring up how good you are. I fought you three times. 1. I had just won a 1v3 and had no mana and low health. I started to run back to my party member and you focused and killed me and shortly after, lost to my party member. 2. I was bounty hunting and ran into you and what777. Where you 1v2'd me. Then you got me once more when I was at the gy without reagents. So yeah I suck because I can't win a 1v2. Keep in mind that most agree with me.

 

[Templar_James]

#SageAdviceFromAProWizard

Don't act like it's such a cut-and-dry situation. Killing a Ninja is the hardest task I've encountered so far. Get too close - you're dead. Get too far, they just Smoke and run out of render distance. There is a happy medium, but it's not "easy".

Also, remember that Blink actually has a longer CD now.

enderpearl gg

 

[Templar_James]

I don't remember the last time a ninja used escape artist.
Are we talking about skill level or balance of wizard? because if we are talking about balance then who wins a 1v1doesn't matter. I wasn't even talking about skill level, I was stating facts about wizards. And yes, I mastered finally wizard. I was a little slow because I have something called a life.

Since you must bring up how good you are. I fought you three times. 1. I had just won a 1v3 and had no mana and low health. I started to run back to my party member and you focused and killed me and shortly after, lost to my party member. 2. I was bounty hunting and ran into you and what777. Where you 1v2'd me. Then you got me once more when I was at the gy without reagents. So yeah I suck because I can't win a 1v2. Keep in mind that most agree with me.

Lol dude I've 2v1'd before Killed you and then got away the funny thing was that it was 2 mastered wizards. Skill does have something to do with this thread because not everybody is bad at their class.

 

[lioIIoil]

escape artist, 2 min cd. entangle 15 sec cd...

I played ninja a lot last map and got pretty good. Escapeartist is enough to close the distance between the ninja and the wizard. Then blackjack, backstab, and kick. We are completely disabled for a few seconds which is enough to deal tons with your sword, and eviscerate. We would be pretty low after that combo.


In fact there are many times I don't root a ninja for fear of him using escape artist

 

[lioIIoil]

Lol dude I've 2v1'd before Killed you and then got away the funny thing was that it was 2 mastered wizards. Skill does have something to do with this thread because not everybody is bad at their class.

So how did you run away from two mastered wizards? I thought it was impossible to run from a wizard even as a goon.

 

[Templar_James]

So how did you run away from two mastered wizards? I thought it was impossible to run from a wizard even as a goon.

As I said you can do anything as most classes if your playing against people who are garbage at the game

 

[Templar_James]

I played ninja a lot last map and got pretty good. Escapeartist is enough to close the distance between the ninja and the wizard. Then blackjack, backstab, and kick. We are completely disabled for a few seconds which is enough to deal tons with your sword, and eviscerate. We would be pretty low after that combo.


In fact there are many times I don't root a ninja for fear of him using escape artist

"Escape artist is enough to close the distance" ohh I didn't know escape artist had blink or enderpearl range

 

[malikdanab]

I like how you guys are arguing to see which class is more OP. Both ninja and wizard are too strong and need a nerf

 

[Templar_James]

I like how you guys are arguing to see which class is more OP. Both ninja and wizard are too strong and need a nerf

A bit true but I feel that wizard is stronger then ninja it's counter class and even then no one brings up how other classes beat wizard. Wizard is always broken it seems and majority of people who play the class know it's broken they just like to keep it that way.

 

[malikdanab]

A bit true but I feel that wizard is stronger then ninja it's counter class and even then no one brings up how other classes beat wizard. Wizard is always broken it seems and majority of people who play the class know it's broken they just like to keep it that way.

Lets remove blink from Wizard and Blackjack from ninja and watch all the players flip out

 

[Templar_James]

Lets remove blink from Wizard and Blackjack from ninja and watch all the players flip out

Or or reduce both enderpearl and blink range, reduce fireball damage by 50 and then reduce some of ninjas damage gg they are now both balanced

 

[Delfofthebla]

This thread is as cancerous as ever, I see. Good ol' HC community.

 

[Jack_Reacher]

A bit true but I feel that wizard is stronger then ninja it's counter class and even then no one brings up how other classes beat wizard. Wizard is always broken it seems and majority of people who play the class know it's broken they just like to keep it that way.

Says the guy who plays a Dragoon.

This thread is as cancerous as ever, I see. Good ol' HC community.

Templar_James is metastasizing...

 

[Templar_James]

Says the guy who plays a Dragoon.

Templar_James is metastasizing...

You seem to be hating on someone that is right

 

[werwew19]

You seem to be hating on someone that is right

Most of your points are wrong. l0l

 

[Glacial_Reign]

Shut this thread down. It's nothing but bashing now and it's also a useless thread now