We Emberhollow and Mineris would like to declare war on O.S.

[Dielan9999]

Dielan read the thread the thread title "Emberhollow and Mineris declares war om OS" I am pretty sure that EH is still alive and kicking, and all the active Mineris members are moving there. OS has yet to beat EH without help from Umbra or any other group.

This war is still going and OS is certainly not winning it (I still have good memories how Mrfly superjumped on the Kingdom walls and tremored your entire party off, half of them right into the hands of the EH forces).

PVP does nothing to stop townships. It's basically waging war via sports. We may have lost some battles, but we've won the war. What we wanted (Destruction of Mineris) is accomplished. I couldn't give two shits about EH and we had no intention of harming their town or tying to make them quit or anything. They jumped into a conflict they had very little part in, and they failed to protect Mineris.

You can argue that you haven't lost but without a doubt, we got what we wanted. Why should we care otherwise? Wins and losses in PVP will never cause me any grief. You couldn't get into my house if you tried, nor could anybody prevent me from traveling, PVE'ing, mining, or do whatever I want to do wherever I please. This is the case for just about everybody in OS. PVP has no bearing on our ability to function. There are no rules to war, there was just what we wanted to do, and you guys trying to stop us.

You may have a more passionate sports team, but we are the winning nation

 

[UltimateOptics]

UltimateOptics care to explain what's going on with you wanting to sell Mineris?


The reason being, is that the one and only goal of my kingdom in this conflict was to prevent Mineris from becoming active again. With you trying to sell you town/get rid of it, instead of passing it on to another citizen or noble it is basically one huge white flag. As this war was an attempt to stop us from either directly or inadvertently causing Mineris' downfall, you have not succeeded.

Having accomplished exactly what we set out to do: I would like to formally DECLARE VICTORY FOR THE ORDER OF THE RISING SUN!

Of course, if you guys still want to arrange 10v10 teamfights ahead of time, I'm sure we can go for it. You guys didn't really raid us any more often than you did before you declared war, and not much came of it. It was fun though!

Lol?
Im sorry to alert you that im selling mineris due to it sucking up my money and i really can't be arsed to do all the work on it... I don't see why you would have assumptions that i cared about having newerth in there? You guys were almost never there and people having marks in a town is not a reason to disband it. Also it had to members simply because the noobs just quit herocraft on the first day (Like most of them do) and also i didn't get many applications.

I am also telling you that WE declaired war on you for marking in Mineris and WE have been winning EVERY fight against newerth.

I don't see how you could possibly count this as a win?

 

[Dielan9999]

Lol?
Im sorry to alert you that im selling mineris due to it sucking up my money and i really can't be arsed to do all the work on it... I don't see why you would have assumptions that i cared about having newerth in there? You guys were almost never there and people having marks in a town is not a reason to disband it. Also it had to members simply because the noobs just quit herocraft on the first day (Like most of them do) and also i didn't get many applications.

I am also telling you that WE declaired war on you for marking in Mineris and WE have been winning EVERY fight against newerth.

I don't see how you could possibly count this as a win?

Because you're quitting on the town like we wanted? Nobody cares about the rest lol

 

[UltimateOptics]

Because you're quitting on the town like we wanted? Nobody cares about the rest lol

If you want i can keep it? Its not that hard... after all i have 10k

 

[Dielan9999]

If you want i can keep it? Its not that hard... after all i have 10k

I'm not trying to make decisions for you lol. I'm just saying the only reason we took hostile actions in the first place was to stop you from reviving Mineris. So if you are giving up Mineris, I say we've pretty much won.

edit: That's all I'm trying to say. I'm sure the pvp won't stop, I'm just letting you know we've gotten what we wanted

 

[UltimateOptics]

I'm not trying to make decisions for you lol. I'm just saying the only reason we took hostile actions in the first place was to stop you from reviving Mineris. So if you are giving up Mineris, I say we've pretty much won.

edit: That's all I'm trying to say. I'm sure the pvp won't stop, I'm just letting you know we've gotten what we wanted

No the pvp won't stop .-. This is freepers after all

pandaman7 - Im sure you have some words of wisdom

 

[MajorasMask]

Because you're quitting on the town like we wanted? Nobody cares about the rest lol

Did you say anywhere in this thread that one of your goals in this ''war'' was to make Mineris inactive/collapse?

 

[UltimateOptics]

Plus whats the say the person im giving to won't revive it? I could have easily coped with newerth being in Mineris since i literally had ember to call on when it was required. In my case i would say you influenced only 5% of me into selling mineris with bigger factors powering over it eg. money, work. It did not really matter to me or the members so we kept co-opritive and told each other when we spotted one of you guys inside and we would instantly get EH on there ass.

Truth is you did literally nothing to influence the selling of Mineris and if you want me to list all the factors in % order then fine.

 

[UltimateOptics]

Another little add on is that the way you brought that up was very stupid and you havn't told us the aim in chat before there for i could have easily said at any point 'Well our aim was to win every newerth group fight' and we did so we should win right?

 

[MajorasMask]

Another little add on is that the way you brought that up was very stupid and you havn't told us the aim in chat before there for i could have easily said at any point 'Well our aim was to win every newerth group fight' and we did so we should win right?

Yeah guys, the aim of this war was to defend Wyntervale from going inactive. Wyntervale is still active = WE WIN.

GG OS

 

[Fjordsen]

Dielan9999 - That's like saying Japan won WW2 because they accomplished their objective of bombing Pearl Harbor destroying a minor part of the US fleet and airforces.

 

[victim130]

Dielan9999 - That's like saying Japan won WW2 because they accomplished their objective of bombing Pearl Harbor destroying a minor part of the US fleet and airforces.

Though to be honest, town destruction has been Newerth's forte, its as if you didn't know this .-.

 

[xexorian]

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[Dielan9999]

As former members of RoV and former members of the freepers. Us freepers and the members of Mineris would like to declare war on the Holy Warriors of Order of the Sun. Quotes coming from their members like Sidgil and Predator2010 trying to ruin my former town Mineris has crossed a line and as in defense I would like to call this war!

xexorian ironee212 Dielan9999

This quoted above is the first post. We took action against Mineris, so the Freepers stepped in.

This has been known since the start I'm sure whoever takes the town from UltimateOptics will face our wrath yet again. The real question is if the FC will come to the aid of strangers. Like I said before, you can change your motives to a win condition like "We wanna win every groupfight!" on us and try to make it sound like you won if you like, we still got what we wanted. So it's either we win you lose, or we both won so it's a tie. That choice is up to you

 

[MajorasMask]

I'm sure whoever takes the town from UltimateOptics will face our wrath yet again.

And how do you know that it was OS alone who made Ultimate sell (or transfer) Mineris? Or that your ''wrath'' was even an important factor in that?

 

[MultiHeartGold]

Dielan9999 I was in OS during the first half or so of the "war", and nobody ever told me you would win it when UltimateOptics sells his town. When did you come up with the whole "We win once he sells" bs?

 

[Dielan9999]

And how do you know that it was OS alone who made Ultimate sell (or transfer) Mineris? Or that your ''wrath'' was even an important factor in that?

Let me quote this for you:

Lol?
Im sorry to alert you that im selling mineris due to it sucking up my money and i really can't be arsed to do all the work on it... I don't see why you would have assumptions that i cared about having newerth in there? You guys were almost never there and people having marks in a town is not a reason to disband it. Also it had to members simply because the noobs just quit herocraft on the first day (Like most of them do) and also i didn't get many applications.

Here Ulti is basically saying he doesn't make enough money to comfortably upkeep the town. This is because he wasn't able to recruit people to stay in the town to help carry the burden. All we sought to do was use our marks to kill anybody in Mineris when we saw them, and steal stuff from all the uncovered chests. We only tried to speed up the inevitable. Without our pressure he might have recruited active members that would have changed the course of Mineris (we often whet there when no managers were online but prospective noob citizens were, to kill them). It doesn't matter if we were the ones directly responsible, but it is the outcome we wanted that EH could not prevent.

 

[Dielan9999]

Dielan9999 I was in OS during the first half or so of the "war", and nobody ever told me you would win it when UltimateOptics sells his town. When did you come up with the whole "We win once he sells" bs?

Multi, I told you personally that they declared war because we raided Mineris and that my intention was to prevent Mineris from becoming active again. You said yourself you wanted to mark there and help us.

EDIT: To be clear, I take his intention to sell the town as a white flag in terms of reviving the town. He's basically given up.

 

[Fjordsen]

And how do you know that it was OS alone who made Ultimate sell (or transfer) Mineris? Or that your ''wrath'' was even an important factor in that?

It was barely a reason whatsoever, Ulti didn't want to spend all his personal coin on the project not to mention the amount of time it would take to finish the undercity/overcity and revamp the towers completly. We want to have fun on HC, but Mineris would take too much of our time and resources so we decided to sell it. It's not like there will be a difference, we were only hanging with EH people back then and that's what we are doing now aswell except that we have our stuff in EH instead of Mineris.

 

[Dielan9999]

It was barely a reason whatsoever, Ulti didn't want to spend all his personal coin on the project not to mention the amount of time it would take to finish the undercity/overcity and revamp the towers completly. We want to have fun on HC, but Mineris would take too much of our time and resources so we decided to sell it. It's not like there will be a difference, we were only hanging with EH people back then and that's what we are doing now aswell except that we have our stuff in EH instead of Mineris.

I honestly do wish you the best of luck. I have no issues with EH.

My issue was with Mineris as a town, and the original raid on Mineris was my idea. Even though it was Sidgil and Pred's attitude that sparked this thread. Now with Mineris down the drain, OS has gotten all that it wanted out of this war Which is why I declare victory. Like I said, PVP is like a sport so I don't really care if we win/lose instances of PVP in this setting. It has no bearing on OS' prosperity. I'm not sure what EH was trying to accomplish besides defending Mineris, where our intentions were clear form the start. I'm just declaring an early victory with Ulti trying to sell the town, instead of waiting for its regions to be removed. Not much difference between the two at this point.