Tombstone / Bed Camping

[Kainzo]

Currently - the law is:

1) Don't prevent access to someone's tombstone (Though you can kill them multiple times while they try and get to it)

2) You can camp someone's bed spawn (Though this can be changed when bed spawns are completely removed)


What are your thoughts on this? I want to hear from you.

 

[Welkyr]

not much you can do about either of those unless you intend to ban people for either. aren't tombstone chests lootable by others? that seems like a reasonable solution to that one. and if you remove bed spawns then the other issue is gone too.

 

[applelove]

I'll just repost what I told you for the sake of discussion;

Camping a tombstone is fine, it's mean and pointless, but if the person wants their stuff bad enough, they'll rearm and go get it.
If your bed is being camped, the only option you have is to log off and hope the person is gone when they come back. In MC griefing is only consider smashing things, but destroying someone's hard work brings the same grief that preventing them from playing does.

Now, hiding out around the building where the spawn is, and THEN killing them, that's fine. When they spawn they should already be locking down their home or getting ready to fight. Respawning and getting cut apart doesn't leave many options.
The person should be smart enough not to place their beds where they might be killed, but the way I see it preventing another player from enjoying or even playing the server should never be allowed.

 

[Doreagarde]

not much you can do about either of those unless you intend to ban people for either. aren't tombstone chests lootable by others? that seems like a reasonable solution to that one. and if you remove bed spawns then the other issue is gone too.

When Kain says not to do a thing, and then you do it, that's a ban

 

[carmeops]

camping a tombstone is fine, camping a bed is.. totally unfair, the dead can't do a thing and will lost all his money by dying, i'm against bed camping

 

[Cybersword]

I am against bed camping as well. It's cheap, dick-ish, and shouldn't be happening.

 

[Draskuul]

Some towns have, or are working on, elaborate security to prevent intruders. Should someone get inside (I would assume piggybacking behind a valid entry or through trickery rather than a physical vulnerability), then is killed via lava or lighter, are we required to allow them entry for the tombstone, or must they again find their own way back inside?

 

[Kainzo]

DRaskuul that's a grey area - if they died in your area ... and you are fortified (Ie you didnt make the wall just so they couldnt get to THEIR items) its fine.

Also bed spawn camping is not allowed any longer.

Griefing Article 1 - Citation 6.
Any action to another without gain except to harass another user.

 

[Doreagarde]

Griefing Article 1 - Citation 6.
Any action to another without gain except to harass another user.

How can you manage to quote the Herocraft Charter before it's been written? Do you have a time machine?!?!

 

[Brutalacerate]

Griefing Article 1 - Citation 6.
Any action to another without gain except to harass another user.

How can you manage to quote the Herocraft Charter before it's been written? Do you have a time machine?!?!

Nah, Kainzo's borrowing mine at the moment. 5c/day +10% interest.

 

[Capn_Danger]

Good to hear bed camping is against the rules now. Tombstone camping seems like a good thing, the recently murdered has a chance to rearm and attack.

 

[Kainzo]

Griefing Article 1 - Citation 1
Mindlessly destroying structures created by another player

 

[GreekCrackShot]

I had a problem i encountered the other day with bed spawn camping. We were in chriton and me and some other group members were holding this area down outside of the rings in a pvp zone, one guy, Randomman159, had his bed under that house, and when we killed him, he come up and start hitting us. This should give us the right to kill him, right? he disregarded his money and tried to drive us out, which i respect, but in this case, i think it should be allowed to kill someone who just spawned if provoked

 

[carmeops]

well, if he directly attacked you right after spawning, it's not spawn killing for you, it's just self defense

if he don't get the chance to save himself and leave after a spawn, and choose to fight, it's his problem