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The Bazaar FAQ
- Thread starter TheTXLibra
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AfroDave
Legacy Supporter 3
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- Jan 22, 2011
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- United Kingdom
Even with the map wipe there is a high chance it will be copied over. As it will be a building that the whole server is going to use. They are still going to copy important structures like the DH Dragon so this will most likely get copied over.
I thought a wipe is a wipe? how can one persons creation be carried over and anothers not?
I like you have spent countless hrs perfecting structures for specific functions.
MY ISSUE is who benefits from this bazzar as rumored its a rental area so who is getting the funds,
if Kainzo is transferring it over then it better be Kainzo. otherwise its a unfair advantage to certain groups of players for their projects to be transferred over and not others.
I like you have spent countless hrs perfecting structures for specific functions.
MY ISSUE is who benefits from this bazzar as rumored its a rental area so who is getting the funds,
if Kainzo is transferring it over then it better be Kainzo. otherwise its a unfair advantage to certain groups of players for their projects to be transferred over and not others.
A
Alente1
Of course Kainzo would be taking any revenue from the structure, silly rabbit ;p
A structure that is transferred over because it has a core function to the server is hardly unusual, why rebuild things that the entire server is going to need to use when they can be copied? As hilarious as it would be to log in to the new map and have it completely empty.
A structure that is transferred over because it has a core function to the server is hardly unusual, why rebuild things that the entire server is going to need to use when they can be copied? As hilarious as it would be to log in to the new map and have it completely empty.
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- Earth
Just saw this place, I never thought I'd fap to Minecraft, but hey, there's a first time for everything. 
I'm not at liberty to discuss any information about it, but if you find it I encourage you to look around (nicely) because its awesome
I'm not at liberty to discuss any information about it, but if you find it I encourage you to look around (nicely) because its awesome
TheTXLibra
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- Mar 5, 2011
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- Somewhere, TX
As for Airbus's concerns, I have this to say:
1. Though initially The Bazaar was just intended as a treat for my three year old son (as his favorite building is the Hagia Sophia), The Chief commissioned me to make a Bazaar out of it for DH Kingdom for either the current or the new map (depending on circumstanaces only in his control). Thus, the Bazaar is owned by DH, not me. I am a DH Architect, and just like in the real world, an architect rarely owns the building he or she designed. So, as for it being carried over to the new map (if there is one), that is DH's decision alone. It is part of their infrastructure, not my personal castle or city.
2. It has, for months, been intended to be a replacement for the Sanctum Shops, but is absolutely NOT the sort of structure that can be slapped together in a couple of days between maps. It has taken months to get it to the point it's at now. It was constructed on the current map largely because its exact role in the new map, as well as its placement, had not yet been decided. That's why it's not being built on port 1337, and that's why it may very well be ported over, despite "a wipe is a wipe."
3. Whoever runs The Bazaar, as well as collects rent for the shops, is entirely up to The Chief. He may have staff run it, he may have me do it, or he may do it himself (though I doubt the last one, as he's juuuust slightly busy 24/7). However, this should be considered no different than a DH Banker position. Running the Bazaar will be an ENORMOUS pain in the ass, as there are 48 small pavillion shops, 8 medium shops, 4 epic shops, 4 banks, and 4 towers. All of which must be sectioned off into separate child-regions, the permissions maintained, and the rent collected, on a monthly basis, plus repairs to the inevitable damage by shop owners and customers, all the while being improved with new features not in the initial implementation (such as a rail system, murderdome, etc.) So whoever ends up with the job is going to have a shit-ton of work to do nearly every single day, and whatever initial pay they recieve will be as compensation for putting up with all that crap. It makes the job of a DH Banker look effortless by comparison, so it stands to reason that whoever does it will get a fair rate of pay for it. Personally, I'd rather just get paid for completing the Bazaar and be free to start up a new project, but again, that's Chief's decision, not mine.
4. Unlike most structures, the Bazaar is both a collaborative effort and gift to everyone. Upwards of 20+ people (I don't have the list in front of me atm) have donated hundreds, thousands, or even tens of thousands of coins worth of materials and coins themselves. The Bazaar is bigger than any one of us. It is not a city, in that it will have no citizens. It is not a possession, in that it belongs to everyone. It is not favoritism to me. If anything, it is favoritism to all of you. It is there so that trade can more easily flow between everyone in an aesthetically pleasing environment that favors no one city over the other, without muddying up the spawn area. It is true there is rent: this is both to control the economy and to compensate those who will have to run the place. It is true some will profit on it, as is expected in an economy system with money in it. But it is equally true that everyone will be able to benefit through it as an economic center for buying or selling.
5. If there is a map and coin reset, then of course the prices will be adjusted to match the economic playing field. It's only fair: I doubt anyone could afford 2000c per month in the first few weeks or months of operation. However, having such a centrally located economic center will allow players to generate coin MUCH faster than they could in the past, provided they keep their shops updated.
I hope this allays some of your concerns. I understand where you are coming from, but I believe you may have been seeing it in a light other than what it is intended as.
Also, status report: As I type this, the Bazaar is 98% done. All I have left is to complete the interior of one more tower, and then do global cleanup on the area.
1. Though initially The Bazaar was just intended as a treat for my three year old son (as his favorite building is the Hagia Sophia), The Chief commissioned me to make a Bazaar out of it for DH Kingdom for either the current or the new map (depending on circumstanaces only in his control). Thus, the Bazaar is owned by DH, not me. I am a DH Architect, and just like in the real world, an architect rarely owns the building he or she designed. So, as for it being carried over to the new map (if there is one), that is DH's decision alone. It is part of their infrastructure, not my personal castle or city.
2. It has, for months, been intended to be a replacement for the Sanctum Shops, but is absolutely NOT the sort of structure that can be slapped together in a couple of days between maps. It has taken months to get it to the point it's at now. It was constructed on the current map largely because its exact role in the new map, as well as its placement, had not yet been decided. That's why it's not being built on port 1337, and that's why it may very well be ported over, despite "a wipe is a wipe."
3. Whoever runs The Bazaar, as well as collects rent for the shops, is entirely up to The Chief. He may have staff run it, he may have me do it, or he may do it himself (though I doubt the last one, as he's juuuust slightly busy 24/7). However, this should be considered no different than a DH Banker position. Running the Bazaar will be an ENORMOUS pain in the ass, as there are 48 small pavillion shops, 8 medium shops, 4 epic shops, 4 banks, and 4 towers. All of which must be sectioned off into separate child-regions, the permissions maintained, and the rent collected, on a monthly basis, plus repairs to the inevitable damage by shop owners and customers, all the while being improved with new features not in the initial implementation (such as a rail system, murderdome, etc.) So whoever ends up with the job is going to have a shit-ton of work to do nearly every single day, and whatever initial pay they recieve will be as compensation for putting up with all that crap. It makes the job of a DH Banker look effortless by comparison, so it stands to reason that whoever does it will get a fair rate of pay for it. Personally, I'd rather just get paid for completing the Bazaar and be free to start up a new project, but again, that's Chief's decision, not mine.
4. Unlike most structures, the Bazaar is both a collaborative effort and gift to everyone. Upwards of 20+ people (I don't have the list in front of me atm) have donated hundreds, thousands, or even tens of thousands of coins worth of materials and coins themselves. The Bazaar is bigger than any one of us. It is not a city, in that it will have no citizens. It is not a possession, in that it belongs to everyone. It is not favoritism to me. If anything, it is favoritism to all of you. It is there so that trade can more easily flow between everyone in an aesthetically pleasing environment that favors no one city over the other, without muddying up the spawn area. It is true there is rent: this is both to control the economy and to compensate those who will have to run the place. It is true some will profit on it, as is expected in an economy system with money in it. But it is equally true that everyone will be able to benefit through it as an economic center for buying or selling.
5. If there is a map and coin reset, then of course the prices will be adjusted to match the economic playing field. It's only fair: I doubt anyone could afford 2000c per month in the first few weeks or months of operation. However, having such a centrally located economic center will allow players to generate coin MUCH faster than they could in the past, provided they keep their shops updated.
I hope this allays some of your concerns. I understand where you are coming from, but I believe you may have been seeing it in a light other than what it is intended as.
Also, status report: As I type this, the Bazaar is 98% done. All I have left is to complete the interior of one more tower, and then do global cleanup on the area.
RedEchoRanger
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- Joined
- Mar 20, 2011
TheTXLibra said:
awesome, I wish I had a favorite building when I was 3
Well written and Understood, I had no idea! I had not stumbled upon it yet, and heard very little I thought it was just someones attempt to control the market.
I stand corrected and sounds like you've worked hard congrads! hope to see it in he new world
Airbus101
I stand corrected and sounds like you've worked hard congrads! hope to see it in he new world
Airbus101
- Joined
- Jan 7, 2011
- Location
- The 7th Circle of Heaven
The bazaar will be integrated into the spawn area for the new main map. Various things will be changed on it to match and fit for where it will be. I don't think anyone will be unhappy with this placement.
TheTXLibra
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- Mar 5, 2011
- Location
- Somewhere, TX
I'm still stunned damn near speechless by the honor. Thank you, Chief.