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Suggestion Should Beguilers lose the skill "Icebolt"?

Do you think Icebolt should be removed from the skill set of the beguiler.

  • Yes, and replace it with confuse

    Votes: 11 30.6%
  • Yes, but don't replace it with anything.

    Votes: 18 50.0%
  • No, beguilers are not overpowered.

    Votes: 7 19.4%

  • Total voters
    36

leftovers5

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Im just saying if its implemented it wouldn't work well with the beguiler kit whatsoever.
Yes, it would. Beguilers are not intended to be a strong 1v1 class, while it is possible to get to a competitive 1v1 skill level, that class is destined to be in the group fight spectrum of fighting.
 
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Falker57

Also, I dont think Beguilers should lose their icebolt until Piggify is fixed or Wizards blink is nerfed(imo Wizards can just keep kiting or get out of a fight better than dragoons) or Rogues are buffed. All of these things need to be balanced. Nerfing one of them before all the others isnt going to solve anything with the exception of making people switch to the next op class.
 

Danda

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Honestly I would be humiliated if I was in danda's position. Calling somebody dumb because they didn't post a thread when they actually did and you were wrong... AND hes a close-to-be-demoted mod....
I wouldn't be because I've tested that myself multiple times and cannot replicate the issue so far. There is clearly another factor to the bug that you guys have failed to mention.
 

whitemagehealu

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Jun 25, 2011
Most do fall in the Beguiler sphere, icebolt is a leftover from geomancer slapped on to a class it doesn't belong in.

None of their skills even beguile. Plaguebomb... Why do they have that? That is no where near in the realm of someone who is supposed charm or trick someone. Fireball, Pulse, and Icebolt don't fit the class either. Quantum Leap perhaps needs a name change to Phase Shift or something...
 

Kwong050

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None of their skills even beguile. Plaguebomb... Why do they have that? That is no where near in the realm of someone who is supposed charm or trick someone. Fireball, Pulse, and Icebolt don't fit the class either. Quantum Leap perhaps needs a name change to Phase Shift or something...
piggify
 

Dazureus

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None of their skills even beguile. Plaguebomb... Why do they have that? That is no where near in the realm of someone who is supposed charm or trick someone. Fireball, Pulse, and Icebolt don't fit the class either. Quantum Leap perhaps needs a name change to Phase Shift or something...
Sure it fits. The animals are illusory, used to freak out more conventional fighters. Do you think REAL sheep would just explode? Fireball, Pulse, and Icebolt are your standard trifecta of elemental attacks. Seems like an obvious choice for a mage with no particular elemental affinity. As for that last one... Somebody hasn't seen the movie. ;3

Or, alternately, who even cares?
 

kevinlive

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Imo, beguiler should be a 100% cc class. With a low dmg AoE. Not like stuns and roots(except piggify) - more like mass confuse, blind, neusea, curses, etc etc etc. Someone continue this into a better idea :p
 

Neotetro

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Watch your mouth and learn some respect Cschris. Do NOT step out of line again. Keep things on topic.
 

NuclearCouch

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Watch your mouth and learn some respect Cschris. Do NOT step out of line again. Keep things on topic.
This I Do not get. Sorry neo I respect you, but Chris was called by danda a numb nuts and he was being completely rude, about a bug that was already reported a long, long time ago. I know hes a mod, yeah blah blah, he shouldn't be allowed to go around and say shit like that. I will agree what Chris came back with may have been a bit overboard but It was just simple retaliation. This isn't the first time I've witnessed danda being rude to other players in our community. :'(
 

leftovers5

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This I Do not get. Sorry neo I respect you, but Chris was called by danda a numb nuts and he was being completely rude, about a bug that was already reported a long, long time ago. I know hes a mod, yeah blah blah, he shouldn't be allowed to go around and say shit like that. I will agree what Chris came back with may have been a bit overboard but It was just simple retaliation. This isn't the first time I've witnessed danda being rude to other players in our community. :'(
Not the place for it, all of you (ie nuclear/cschris) take this up with Danda in a PM if you feel strongly about this.

Icebolt shouldn't be the cause of so much rage; it's just an element of the game that needs adjustment, tons of other bugs still remain yes, but staff prioritize.
 
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