Recipe Control

[Diffuse]

Shit that makes stuff prettier >>>>>>>> efficient tools


lol

 

[Mellowbeatz]

This seems like an idea was sort of thrown out there into a piranha tank. I think that it's very unnecessary to make it so different professions are restricted to different things and get a few things in return. I mean, you're thinking about restricting pressure plates to only engineers? What's the point in that? Don't get me wrong this is a great idea, but certainly presented wrong. Professions should be allowed certain things, however it should be things like only engineers are allowed redstone placement.. or only miners allowed diamond pick, and only farmers are allowed to place reeds. Don't take basic things away that are essential to minecraft, that's all I'm saying.

 

[ChunkyM0nk3y]

Or you rather add Features than taking them Away…

 

[dieing25]

Give diamond crafting to miners, because they look to be shafted, and the rest of the minerals to smiths. This should balance them fairly nicely.

 

[MeganPerk]

I seriously can't believe smiths are the only ones who will be able to create diamond weapons. Sometimes, I think there is too much restricting on this server and not enough introduction of new material. Making diamond weapons smith exclusive will make smiths either

1. The richest class in the game. People will be flocking to smiths with coin in hand to get diamond tools (which are a necessity compared to things like cake, stone bricks, etc. which are not definitely not required unless you're someone whose eyes burn at the sight of ugly things and you need these blocks to pretty up your home).

2. The most popular profession. Already, smith is the most popular profession by far. It goes hand in hand with most combat classes (especially the warrior classes) because they are able to repair broken armor and weapons. Making the crafting of diamond tools smith exclusive will throw the amount of players choosing each profession off balance. Think about it, almost all the pvpers on this server are planning to go smith because of it's ability to make pvping cheaper by repairing/decrafting armor/tools instead of crafting new tools. If we give smiths diamond tools, it will sway the decision of those who are debating between smith and another profession to choose smith.

you can always use a class that doesnt use diamond weapons or find a friend who is a smith to do it for you. That or just kill someone who has some. Diamond weapons litter my castle from intruders and serve no purpose atm. Bringing a sense of quality to the highest dps weapons would just feel better in my opinion. Otherwise, make a caster.

 

[Diffuse]

The only specs in the game that does not use diamond weapons are disciples and bards. Everyone else benefits from using diamond. For casters, although still not a lot of overall damage, diamond is 1.5x better than iron. When leveling as a caster or healer you are going to have to use your weapon sometimes (quite often I'd say) and when diamond is that much stronger what reason would there be to settle for less?

Also a large majority of the support for the smiths in this thread have been from members of the communist town which is built to not have to suffer for it. These restrictions have already killed my plans for the next map. I'd like to see some support from people who actually will have to suffer because of these changes.

 

[MeganPerk]

The only specs in the game that does not use diamond weapons are disciples and bards. Everyone else benefits from using diamond. For casters, although still not a lot of overall damage, diamond is 1.5x better than iron. When leveling as a caster or healer you are going to have to use your weapon sometimes (quite often I'd say) and when diamond is that much stronger what reason would there be to settle for less?

Also a large majority of the support for the smiths in this thread have been from members of the communist town which is built to not have to suffer for it. These restrictions have already killed my plans for the next map. I'd like to see some support from people who actually will have to suffer because of these changes.

disciples, bards, casters, and most healers since their staff damage is being greatly reduced to make them rely more on skills.

This map isn't just making your "plans" suffer. There are alot of changes that ruin quite alot of already leveled specs, classes, and previous "plans". Will it be more difficult to get diamond weapons if you're not a smith? yes. Is it as drastic as healers being remotely useless come 3.0? no. Some things dont always benefit us, but you could be worse off.

This adds new uniqueness and value in deciding what profession you want. Much like how engineers and masons are already in short supply, they may remain that way once again. I'm sure that many people were "planning" on becomming masons or engineers or one of the new professions and leaving smiths in the dust.

 

[Diffuse]

If you are planning to level at any decent speed solo as a caster you will have to use your hoe quite often. Mana doesn't come back fast enough to use it as your only means of damage.

From what I know, a lot of warrior pvpers were already planning to go smith so they could repair armor. Smith was already super valuable to warriors without the diamond restrictions. I have no problems with restrictions, but smith's restrictions are by far the most valuable except for maybe enchanter (haven't played 1.0 enough to know). Many people were planning on becoming masons or engineers or other professions but a lot of people were still planning on going smith.

 

[MeganPerk]

If so many people are going smith than capitalism will kick in and people will offer new lower prices to sell more than their competitors. The option of using diamond weapons is not going away, it simply means that having access to your highest amount of damage is not simply taken for granted by everyone.

 

[GraRona]

Like Diffuse said, I'd like to see some opinions from people who use diamond tools.

 

[ChunkyM0nk3y]

Like Diffuse said, I'd like to see some opinions from people who use diamond tools.

I'm only using Diamond/Gold.

In my opinion, it would Be a good idea, I mean you gotta Look at it from both sides, Things like that will give the classes more abilities and it will Be good for the market=more Value of Diamond weapons=more pvp=more Fun etc.

 

[GraRona]

I'm only using Diamond/Gold.

In my opinion, it would Be a good idea, I mean you gotta Look at it from both sides, Things like that will give the classes more abilities and it will Be good for the market=more Value of Diamond weapons=more pvp=more Fun etc.

How does raising the value of diamond weapons create more pvp? If anything, it reduces the amount of pvp by making going pvping even more expensive. People will not want to pvp in fear that they will lose their valuable diamond tools. If anything, restrict GOLD weapons/tools to smiths. Not our diamond tools.

 

[ChunkyM0nk3y]

How does raising the value of diamond weapons create more pvp? If anything, it reduces the amount of pvp by making going pvping even more expensive. People will not want to pvp in fear that they will lose their valuable diamond tools. If anything, restrict GOLD weapons/tools to smiths. Not our diamond tools.

Don't think so.
You go in with Diamond -> You Win Diamond (You're gonna Be more happy about it too)-> You got out with 2 Diamond swords -> PROFIT

I mean it would Be mote risky but that's okay imo

 

[Upb34t]

I wouldn't want diamond weapons to be restricted to smiths only, because diamond weapons are essential and restricting an essential part doesn't seem right.

On the other hand I think it would be a good idea to restrict diamond and iron armor. They're not a necessarity and smiths will still be in high demand, because most players still want to wear armor.
Unless iron and diamond armor will be restricted to smith, warrior specs have a great advantage, because for crafting leather and chainmail armor farmers resp. alchemists are necessary.

Leather armor (acquiring of leather): Farmers
Chainmail armor: Alchemists
Iron/Diamond armor: Smith

Weapons: All specs