Suggestion New Animations (Pictures)

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

Got bored and decided that some skills needed better animations.

Coded these just now:

It's kinda the same, but it's a little more compact and visible.

Original

Wider spread

Another Dragonsbreath (different particle settings)

Original spell particle idea

Purple magic alternative

I finally managed to get the skill itself to work. That was nice.

Like I said, just a thought. Credits to DarkBlade12 for his Particle Effect API.

Carbash · Jan 18, 2015

chaotic visions purple? also dragonsbreath with actual fire yes please.

MCderpy12 · Jan 18, 2015

It used to be a bit like this, I think but they had to remove most of the partical effects due to server lag issues...I think

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

MCderpy12 said:
It used to be a bit like this, I think but they had to remove most of the partical effects due to server lag issues...I think

Yeah, lag could be a problem. This API is pretty minimalistic, but still...hmph.

carbash420 said:
chaotic visions purple? also dragonsbreath with actual fire yes please.

ChaoticVisions, good idea. I'll have a look at it.

Any other skills that could use a better animation?

MCderpy12 · Jan 18, 2015

Lord, don't mistake that last comment, these look great!

Also a effect for Tremor would be sweet.

Eneokun · Jan 18, 2015

I like the idea of skill effects and particles, but may @malikdanab slap me if I don't say: Remember the lag issues

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

Eneokun said:
I like the idea of skill effects and particles, but may @malikdanab slap me if I don't say: Remember the lag issues

I'm trying to think of a way to ensure minimal lag considering every player on the server, but at current it's mostly just a lot of floundering around.

MCderpy12 said:
Lord, don't mistake that last comment, these look great!

Also a effect for Tremor would be sweet.

Hmm, I'll look into that. Doing Reckoning now.

malikdanab · Jan 18, 2015

Eneokun said:
I like the idea of skill effects and particles, but may @malikdanab slap me if I don't say: Remember the lag issues

Hey, It's fireworks that are the problem. Particles are fair game. The only problem is when you make them super dense.

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

@carbash420 Is this what you meant?

Also:

Reckoning's animation works fine. I'm starting to implement actual functionality, but I'm still fine-tuning some stuff - half the time Reckoning does nothing or throws things fifty blocks into the air. Bonespear and ChaoticVisions have awkward snowball damage at the moment. Dragonfire doesn't do anything yet.

Although I guess we could make Pyro do this instead. /troll

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

Sorry to double-post, but @MCderpy12, here you go:

mung3r · Jan 18, 2015

I like that you have the motivation to experiment with particle effects. I do know that @Kainzo wants to have these back in again.

The effects that we had in the past broke with some of the server updates. We removed them with the intent that we would add them back using the newer effects api. This takes more effort than just using this firework, or that firework effect here and there adhoc. Add to that the fact that there are hundreds of skills, the task for adding effects to all of them becomes daunting.

However, I do have an idea that would make this task a bit easier. All the skills have SkillTypes assigned (see below). One could easily map an effect based on the SkillType and the Skill subclass of PassiveSkill, ActiveSkill and TargettedSkill.

For example, DragonsBreath has a SkillType of ABILITY_PROPERTY_FIRE that can be mapped to a fire effect.

ABILITY_PROPERTY_AIR
ABILITY_PROPERTY_BLEED
ABILITY_PROPERTY_DARK
ABILITY_PROPERTY_DISEASE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_EARTH
ABILITY_PROPERTY_FIRE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_ICE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_ILLUSION
ABILITY_PROPERTY_LIGHT
ABILITY_PROPERTY_LIGHTNING
ABILITY_PROPERTY_MAGICAL
ABILITY_PROPERTY_PHYSICAL
ABILITY_PROPERTY_POISON
ABILITY_PROPERTY_PROJECTILE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_SONG
ABILITY_PROPERTY_WATER
AGGRESSIVE
AREA_OF_EFFECT
ARMOR_PIERCING
BLINDING
BLOCK_CREATING
BLOCK_REMOVING
BLOCK_MODIFYING
BUFFING
DAMAGING
DEBUFFING
DESUMMONING
DISABLE_COUNTERING
DISABLING
DISPELLING
DURABILITY_INCREASING
DURABILITY_REDUCING
FORCE
FORM_ALTERING
HEALING
HEALTH_FREEZING
INTERRUPTING
ITEM_CREATION
ITEM_DESTRUCTION
ITEM_MODIFYING
KNOWLEDGE
MANA_DECREASING
MANA_FREEZING
MANA_INCREASING
MAX_HEALTH_DECREASING
MAX_HEALTH_INCREASING
MAX_MANA_DECREASING
MAX_MANA_INCREASING
MAX_STAMINA_INCREASING
MAX_STAMINA_DECREASING
MOVEMENT_INCREASING
MOVEMENT_INCREASE_COUNTERING
MOVEMENT_PREVENTING
MOVEMENT_PREVENTION_COUNTERING
MOVEMENT_SLOWING
MOVEMENT_SLOWING_COUNTERING
MULTI_GRESSIVE
NO_SELF_TARGETTING
RESURRECTING
SILENCEABLE
SILENCING
STEALTHY
STAMINA_DECREASING
STAMINA_INCREASING
STAMINA_FREEZING
STUNNING
SUMMONING
TELEPORTING
UNBINDABLE
UNINTERRUPTIBLE
VELOCITY_DECREASING
VELOCITY_INCREASING

Carbash · Jan 18, 2015

Yea thatll do pig (er rooster) thatll do.

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

mung3r said:
I like that you have the motivation to experiment with particle effects. I do know that @Kainzo wants to have these back in again.

The effects that we had in the past broke with some of the server updates. We removed them with the intent that we would add them back using the newer effects api. This takes more effort than just using this firework, or that firework effect here and there adhoc. Add to that the fact that there are hundreds of skills, the task for adding effects to all of them becomes daunting.

However, I do have an idea that would make this task a bit easier. All the skills have SkillTypes assigned (see below). One could easily map an effect based on the SkillType and the Skill subclass of PassiveSkill, ActiveSkill and TargettedSkill.

For example, DragonsBreath has a SkillType of ABILITY_PROPERTY_FIRE that can be mapped to a fire effect.

ABILITY_PROPERTY_AIR
ABILITY_PROPERTY_BLEED
ABILITY_PROPERTY_DARK
ABILITY_PROPERTY_DISEASE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_EARTH
ABILITY_PROPERTY_FIRE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_ICE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_ILLUSION
ABILITY_PROPERTY_LIGHT
ABILITY_PROPERTY_LIGHTNING
ABILITY_PROPERTY_MAGICAL
ABILITY_PROPERTY_PHYSICAL
ABILITY_PROPERTY_POISON
ABILITY_PROPERTY_PROJECTILE
ABILITY_PROPERTY_SONG
ABILITY_PROPERTY_WATER
AGGRESSIVE
AREA_OF_EFFECT
ARMOR_PIERCING
BLINDING
BLOCK_CREATING
BLOCK_REMOVING
BLOCK_MODIFYING
BUFFING
DAMAGING
DEBUFFING
DESUMMONING
DISABLE_COUNTERING
DISABLING
DISPELLING
DURABILITY_INCREASING
DURABILITY_REDUCING
FORCE
FORM_ALTERING
HEALING
HEALTH_FREEZING
INTERRUPTING
ITEM_CREATION
ITEM_DESTRUCTION
ITEM_MODIFYING
KNOWLEDGE
MANA_DECREASING
MANA_FREEZING
MANA_INCREASING
MAX_HEALTH_DECREASING
MAX_HEALTH_INCREASING
MAX_MANA_DECREASING
MAX_MANA_INCREASING
MAX_STAMINA_INCREASING
MAX_STAMINA_DECREASING
MOVEMENT_INCREASING
MOVEMENT_INCREASE_COUNTERING
MOVEMENT_PREVENTING
MOVEMENT_PREVENTION_COUNTERING
MOVEMENT_SLOWING
MOVEMENT_SLOWING_COUNTERING
MULTI_GRESSIVE
NO_SELF_TARGETTING
RESURRECTING
SILENCEABLE
SILENCING
STEALTHY
STAMINA_DECREASING
STAMINA_INCREASING
STAMINA_FREEZING
STUNNING
SUMMONING
TELEPORTING
UNBINDABLE
UNINTERRUPTIBLE
VELOCITY_DECREASING
VELOCITY_INCREASING

That's an interesting concept. I could experiment with an enumeration and a task that will determine what effect to play based on the type of skill; I'd have to rewrite the plugin (I have it written as a standalone, as opposed to a possible part of a larger plugin) but honestly I can just copy over the skill handlers I already have and test that out.

Kainzo · Jan 18, 2015

lordofroosters said:
Got bored and decided that some skills needed better animations.

Coded these just now:

It's kinda the same, but it's a little more compact and visible.

Original

Wider spread

Another Dragonsbreath (different particle settings)

Original spell particle idea

Purple magic alternative

I finally managed to get the skill itself to work. That was nice.

Like I said, just a thought. Credits to DarkBlade12 for his Particle Effect API.

Note we would need to ensure this is seamless and we want to make sure its not standalone (ie a lib inside of heroes/skills)
If you are wiling to help integrate this into our Heroes skills, get with me on IRC #heroes onesper.net

Dewyn · Jan 18, 2015

HolyAura demo - I'm running a new API that lets me do things like this, it pulses outward.

DreadAura in the exact same location.

MunchlaxHero · Jan 18, 2015

lordofroosters said:
Got bored and decided that some skills needed better animations.

Coded these just now:

It's kinda the same, but it's a little more compact and visible.

Original

Wider spread

Another Dragonsbreath (different particle settings)

Original spell particle idea

Purple magic alternative

I finally managed to get the skill itself to work. That was nice.

Like I said, just a thought. Credits to DarkBlade12 for his Particle Effect API.

Well done, time to put in your coder app

BeasttRecon · Jan 19, 2015

lordofroosters said:
HolyAura demo - I'm running a new API that lets me do things like this, it pulses outward.

DreadAura in the exact same location.

that looks so sick

Dewyn · Jan 19, 2015

Currently fixing the auras so they're less algorithmic and more vector-based, makes it look a lot smoother. Anyone have any suggestions for more skills?

Planned:
- Fireblast
- Pretty much all Bard skills
- Chakra
- Barrier

Aand that's all I feel like writing down for now.

Dewyn · Jan 19, 2015

@Kainzo
I made a video of the auras working properly, as well as Whirlwind. The lag here is pretty hard, because my computer can't handle running a server alongside Minecraft, Eclipse, Firefox, and Hypercam. When I run just Minecraft, however, the particles are smooth and lagless, so that's a good sign. I'm also working on minimizing resource use while maintaining the effect.

MunchlaxHero · Jan 19, 2015

lordofroosters said:
@Kainzo
I made a video of the auras working properly, as well as Whirlwind. The lag here is pretty hard, because my computer can't handle running a server alongside Minecraft, Eclipse, Firefox, and Hypercam. When I run just Minecraft, however, the particles are smooth and lagless, so that's a good sign. I'm also working on minimizing resource use while maintaining the effect.

only problem i could see is a little too much, with all the particles especially whirlwind it could be hard to see wtf is going on in a 1v1 for instance, 2 whirlwinds and u cant see the ground around you, but i love the effort and they look great just might be too much for heros pvp wise

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