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MobArenas vs WoW LFG system- dont follow

Joolsov

Coal
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
WoW had "some" kind of world pvp since they implemented LFG* system, which was a consequence of dragging people to city and world gone empty.

Please, dont follow this way. People will eventually camp in city and spam arenas till 55. It will kill open pvp.

I know that you, staff, want to improve gameplay on the server which is great thing, but some things can destroy the game (like happened to WoW, where people literelly just stand in city and use LFG system instead of runing to dungeon by their own foot).

*) Looking For Group system - tool with que to find other people to group up for some sort of parties, like dungeons, battlegrounds, raids, areanas; can be used from any place in the world, teleporting to the instance automatically.
 

Faunherer

Legacy Supporter 4
Joined
Jun 24, 2011
Location
Winterfell
Add more arenas so people won't be clogged up waiting for one or two to empty. People will get bored of being in the MA all the time.
 

Jonsoon

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Mar 25, 2011
Location
Essos
It still will drag people from world to city.
Dragongarde needs more traffic. It is currently desserted with people only coming in to sell gold and maybe stoping in the TD if it is convenient to them.
As far as I am concerned, there needs to be more incentive to go to Dragongarde.

However, I do feel that there should be different difficulties of arenas, ones that you couldn't do with low levels, and ones that would be difficult to even do at 55. They should also be spread out throughout the world, but there should still be some inside Dragongarde
 

Joolsov

Coal
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
MA is sure a huge incentive.
How about this: Lets disable MA and put only one mob spawner somewhere in wilderness, and watch massive PvP here.
 

Jonsoon

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Mar 25, 2011
Location
Essos
No one would travel anywhere for a mob spawner, let alone fight over it. You can find more mobs at night than a mob spawner can provide.
 

Kainzo

The Disposable Hero
Staff member
Founder
Adventure Team
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Location
The 7th Circle of Heaven
This isn't a "pvp" server. This is a hardcore server that has PVP as well. We wish to inspire all spheres of gameplay. It just so happens that arenas are popular today and a good way to level, however even after they've been put in, you'll notice that people use them less than when they were first created, especially with the diamond cost ;)

We're on phase 2 of the arena system, balancing waves to make them harder/easier, phase 3 is adding different rewards.

The spawn area should be high in traffic.
 

c12095

Holy Shit!
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
MA is sure a huge incentive.
How about this: Lets disable MA and put only one mob spawner somewhere in wilderness, and watch massive PvP here.

From what I remember that was the gameplan before MA came out, still hope atleast one arena will be located in a pvp area :)
 

Kainzo

The Disposable Hero
Staff member
Founder
Adventure Team
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Location
The 7th Circle of Heaven
From what I remember that was the gameplan before MA came out, still hope atleast one arena will be located in a pvp area :)
Yeah... we're going to be removing / disabling the 'temp' arena and the future arenas will be in the wilds - with a herogate to them
 

Kryptomaniac

Legacy Supporter 7
Joined
Oct 29, 2011
Location
Ontario, Canada
Do you even understand how the Wow LFG system works. This feature was a godsend for wow. there is no comparison you can make between the two... AT ALL.
 

Joolsov

Coal
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Do you even understand how the Wow LFG system works. This feature was a godsend for wow. there is no comparison you can make between the two... AT ALL.
I was playing WoW (more or less, or with breaks) for few years. So dont try to test my knowledge about that game.
LFG/LFR/LFD system destroyed world pvp and caused emptiness on any map. People are leveling by just standing in the main city and spamming dungeons by LFD.

Im hoping for better improvements to the MAs, but i do realize that it cost a lot of staff's work.
 

Angyles

Legacy Supporter 7
Joined
Nov 7, 2011
Location
Southern California
I was playing WoW (more or less, or with breaks) for few years. So dont try to test my knowledge about that game.
LFG/LFR/LFD system destroyed world pvp

Sorry but this made me laugh. World PVP rarely exists on a PVE/RP server, and when it does it is very rare. I mean hell last World PVP event on my server was when we took over Stormwind. World PVP has not been stopped on PVP servers either.

I remember going with Krypt on a PVP server and getting ganked constantly in the Molten Front.

LFG did not ruin World PVP, it might have ruined the community, but it did not impact World PVP. Those that enjoy the PVP still do it, even with the LFG.

If anything this server, like it has been said before by the Admins, is a "PVE" server with some PVP. I do not see how the PVP aspect will stop.
 

Diffuse

Legacy Supporter 4
Joined
Jul 27, 2011
LFG did not ruin World PVP, it might have ruined the community, but it did not impact World PVP.
No. LFG/flying mounts fucked up world pvp, if you played vanilla you should know this. In vanilla pvp was everywhere whether it be in stranglethorn, silithus, blackrock mountain or EPL.

The difference between wow and HC is that once you get to the top level, in wow you can still sit around doing LFG shit whereas in HC you don't really want to still sit around doing MA. MA will kill some world pvping for a little while, but eventually, as like what happened last map, as people get to the max level they will go out hunting for each other (or just camp north road).

Edit: Going to molten core with 40 people then running into another 40 man raid = epic pvp. I miss old wow :(
 

Angyles

Legacy Supporter 7
Joined
Nov 7, 2011
Location
Southern California
No. LFG/flying mounts fucked up world pvp, if you played vanilla you should know this. In vanilla pvp was everywhere whether it be in stranglethorn, silithus, blackrock mountain or EPL.

LFG came out last year I believe, flying mounts might have ruined it but not LFG. You cannot ruin something that was already ruined years before it was released. =) When I started playing in BC there was NEVER world PVP in those areas on my PVE server.
 

Thunderjolt

Legacy Supporter 4
Joined
Jan 15, 2011
Location
California
Flying mounts ruin the scale of the game for me. One reason I'm really looking forward to GW:2 the areas seem MASSIVE and they can't just be flown over.
 
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