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Suggestion Make shaman a mage spec?

Pringle285

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Oct 23, 2011
Just had a thought, how about instead of turning shaman into more of a support just change it to a mage spec instead. The mechanics of the class make it fun to play as a combat spec, of course some more balancing may need to be done but rather than change it a large amount to make it into a support why not leave it as a mage?
 

Dsawemd

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Jun 16, 2011
Making Shaman a mage class would mean removing most of its healing potential, and take the class in a new direction.
 

Evanist

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Sep 2, 2011
It's already rather weak in healing potential. Seriously, healing totem is kinda useless if you can't place another totem right after for fighting. It is about the same healing as fist of jin with a disciple that has quite some healing skills. It might be a bit better then it, but it is still meager.
Cleansespirit is kinda ok I guess, but for a 20 second cooldown and the amount of healing disciple heals better with their chakra, and its aoe, when cleansespirit is 3 second warmup. Putting it as a mage class would make more sense then what it is right now. Sure it could keep 1 healing skill, but it would not be considered a healing class.
 

malikdanab

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Sep 28, 2011
I don't see why not. Yes it has 3 heals (2 1/2 since totems are weird like that...), but so does paladin.
 

Dsawemd

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So does cleric. The point I'm trying to make is just because it has heals doesn't mean it should be a healer.
Cleric can't hit things. It just has zero damage besides melee and smite so it has to slap its hoe around like a wet noodle. No one who feels it would go as far as to call it a hit though ;).

Do we think that Shaman in its current implementation fits the Mage set? Or will it need adjusting on skills?
 

Pringle285

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Cleric can't hit things. It just has zero damage besides melee and smite so it has to slap its hoe around like a wet noodle. No one who feels it would go as far as to call it a hit though ;).

Do we think that Shaman in its current implementation fits the Mage set? Or will it need adjusting on skills?

In my opinion it may need a few changes such as changing one of its heals or removing them but other than that it fits the mage spec a lot more than the healer/support spec.
 

0xNaomi

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Feb 22, 2013
Do we think that Shaman in its current implementation fits the Mage set? Or will it need adjusting on skills?
It'd need adjusting, all right...
back to what it was intended to be. (Or at least closer to it than this mess.)
 

malikdanab

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Sep 28, 2011
Cleric can't hit things. It just has zero damage besides melee and smite so it has to slap its hoe around like a wet noodle. No one who feels it would go as far as to call it a hit though ;).

Do we think that Shaman in its current implementation fits the Mage set? Or will it need adjusting on skills?
Don't confuse the ability to do something and the ability to do something WELL.
 

JupiterRome

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Cleric can't hit things. It just has zero damage besides melee and smite so it has to slap its hoe around like a wet noodle. No one who feels it would go as far as to call it a hit though ;).

Do we think that Shaman in its current implementation fits the Mage set? Or will it need adjusting on skills?
just gunna point out I was wrecking with melee cleric on test..... Shaman could fit in both, I agree about the healer thing cuz if u look into it deep enough Runeblade has a heal (not a very good one but still) bard has a heal, Paladin has a heal, Dk has a heal (soulleech) Necro has a heal (drainsoul or whateva its called) and none of those are healers. Shaman should be a caster imo if its gunna have most of its skills based around damage/offence
 

Moralsk

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Mar 30, 2013
Aye, just because it has some healing doesn't mean it has to be a healer. Shaman is built way more like a mage I've felt. Lot's of classes have heals. I.e berserker has blooddrinker, but it's still a warrior.
 

0xNaomi

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Feb 22, 2013
Three steps to make it fit mage:
1) Remove the normal heal
2) Possibly reduce the HOT
3) Leave the healing totem
 

pure_autism

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Jul 28, 2013
I heartily dislike the idea of Shaman losing its one (sorta) good heal and being turned into a mage. This is just my opinion.
 

0xNaomi

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Feb 22, 2013
I heartily dislike the idea of Shaman losing its one (sorta) good heal and being turned into a mage. This is just my opinion.
Personally, all of its healing sucks as it is, anyway.
Trust me, even as a mage I'd totally buff healingtotem.
 
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