I really do enjoy PVP when I'm on equal footing with my opponent, this being said I have to agree to an extent with the original poster about getting ganked by some one who is 30+ levels above me. While Shrine sounds like a great idea it is not a place for everyone and I think that this is the point that Kainzo is trying to make. Perhaps a viable solution would be to make Shrine just for lost souls? I could be wrong but I believe that hero classes are not applicable in ruins? Perhaps the same could be for shrine. While I personally will stay in Haven, in spite of the churlish antics of the immature basement dwelling trolls, I understand the appeal of a place of refuge where you don't have to stay holed up behind city walls fearing to take a step outside because you might get struck down without being able to fight back. I've read about the idea of Arenas, Town Wars, and even capture the flag and all of these sound like great ideas. I hope to see ALL of them implemented. I personally think that shrine will entice the newer players on the server to stick it out till they can choose a hero class