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Loot Crates (Store item/gambling)

Egorh

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I am not a fan of the possibility of getting Souls/Experience, it leans towards paying to get money/levels.
 

Trazil

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@Kainzo will it only be a max tier chance or will there be other chances like upgrade one or two ranks?
 

Kainzo

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@Kainzo will it only be a max tier chance or will there be other chances like upgrade one or two ranks?
I think we can swing a "promote one tier" as well.

These crates are suppose to do a few different things for the community/server

1) Be good fun for those who have some spare cash to get random loot / packages
2) Help the server out by covering costs and ensuring we're staying ahead
3) Have special ways to give out packages / perks at events without going through painful processes if we want

I understand some are turned off by the thought of exp / souls being on here, but I don't believe its a bad thing. Random is fair and we're going to try and balance it as much as we can before releasing for purchase.
 

yeelowsnow

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In regards to giving exp, is there a way for the recieving part to get an item(ie exp bottle) rather than straight exp? I don't like the idea of getting exp while already being mastered...that's just wasted money.
 

Egorh

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In regards to giving exp, is there a way for the recieving part to get an item(ie exp bottle) rather than straight exp? I don't like the idea of getting exp while already being mastered...that's just wasted money.
I don't actually think EXP bottles work. When I was a merchant I got some from a villager and it didn't do anything
 

Kainzo

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There will be exp bottles that provide boosts and items that can be right-clicked and consumed for a set amount of exp.

This may not be ready to be in for loot crates and these items will be obtainable outside of the store primarily.
 

Air_Restraint

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What are Loot Crates?
Loot crates can contain several different packages/items/souls such as;
titles (new ones, exclusive to crates such as [LUCKY!] and other ones in the store
pets (including the fabled iron golem)
backpacks (ranging from 9 slot to 54 slot, larger ones being more rare)
microblocks (chance to recieve a set of microblocks!)
exp-boosts (auto-triggered exp boosts ranging from 100% to 200%)
exp (much like voting, small exp gains ranging from 50 xp to 500 xp)
souls (in-game currency ranging from 50s and more)
items (such as dragon eggs, portals and other EXP gaining items)
random-staff-skull (elite!)
max-tier (very rare chance to obtain tier 9)

Will crates be tradable?
uncertain at this time - but there's a possibility

When is this coming?
Soon! The coding has been done by a third party developer and the configuration work is almost complete. The cost of the crate will probably be $5 and there may be different sizes of crates available.


@Galaxial - make a snazzy loot crate logo and @Xanipher maybe make a package icon to fit on the hc.to/store ? :D
Can you get titles, pets, backpacks, and tiers you already have? If so that would be a downer.
 

Air_Restraint

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Unfortunately, yes. There's no way of knowing what you already have based off the store.
Will there be a way to get a refund if you have proof that you had it already? By a refundd I mean another crate? Or could you trade/sell it to a player for one of their prizes or souls?
 

Kainzo

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Added some new stuff that will be coming out with it.

loot crate multiplication (you're granted two loot crates)

If we allow for the gaining of souls / exp via crates - we'll have to have a minus on them as well. Each crate will have an item (probably the chest) to be kept that "you bought a crate!" type thing.

Things up for debate:
exp-gain
exp-loss (to be fair, this has to be a value, otherwise its not truly gambling
souls
souls-loss (same as exp-loss)
 
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Jonsoon

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Things up for debate:
exp-gain
exp-loss (to be fair, this has to be a value, otherwise its not truly gambling
souls
souls-loss (same as exp-loss)

Well yes, it is truly gambling. You are using your hard earned cash to gamble with. If anything, You should just get no prize.

I understand what you are saying, but it is still gambling. Saying a soul or exp loss to balance the gain is a better way to say it.
 

yeelowsnow

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Added some new stuff that will be coming out with it.

loot crate multiplication (you're granted two loot crates)

If we allow for the gaining of souls / exp via crates - we'll have to have a minus on them as well. Each crate will have an item (probably the chest) to be kept that "you bought a crate!" type thing.

Things up for debate:
exp-gain
exp-loss (to be fair, this has to be a value, otherwise its not truly gambling
souls
souls-loss (same as exp-loss)

Loss of exp wont be that big of a deal for most players; unless you are leveling a new class, its very trivial. Likewise, EXP gain is a non-factor for most players. Why gamble to get a chance at exp when you could just grab a boost?
Then again, most who buy this would be trying to get the "rare" loot. That being said, is the chance at getting something like exp worth $5? I personally wouldn't want to throw away burger money for some exp.


But, thats gambling for you
 

Kainzo

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well, we may nix the exp thing altogether and leave in boosts and possible exp-boost potions as a random.

Souls might stay in though.

Trying to keep it fair and balanced while also having a mass appeal for people to try their hand at a crate.
 

Kainzo

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Still preparing these, we hit a major roadblock with the odds/ratio for winning/losing so trying to fix it before we release.
 

Kainzo

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Just an FYI - a lot of work has been done on this thanks to @Oxnaomi :)

Most of the config is now finished and im polishing the rewards :)
 

devotedworker

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Well yes, it is truly gambling. You are using your hard earned cash to gamble with. If anything, You should just get no prize.

I understand what you are saying, but it is still gambling. Saying a soul or exp loss to balance the gain is a better way to say it.
Losing exp and 5$ irl cash = ):
 
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