Jessebear89's Ban Appeal

[Jessebear89]

IGN: Jessebear89
Banned by: @(name) Unknown
Time of ban: 8/20/2013
Reason for ban: "Illegal mod"
Your story: I was running around, lagging like hell, rubber banding back and forward across the darn landscape fighting some zombies. I had 2 of them and I was running them in circles trying to get them to spawn more. Out of the blue nearly 10 spawned, I tried to run a ways away and had the rubber banding keep popping me back. So I began to swing at them, no hits were registering until everything suddenly "caught up" a bunch got hit and flew back, I turned and started to run, but the same thing happened, this time it did not fix itself and I was kicked from the server with a message "Illegal mods".


Today has been odd. First with the delevel that was proven to be false, my petitions being ignored, being told that "floating cities" are fine by staff, now this. Did I do something to make the staff of Herocraft angry? I don't understand what is going on today and would like an explanation. I had Opti-fine, Reis Mini-map, the R3D texture pack and Better Sprinting installed. All of which I was told were legal mods allowed by the community. Which one was the wrong one to have? I can get it corrected without being banned.

 

[gabizou]

IGN: Jessebear89
Banned by: @(name) Unknown
Time of ban: 8/20/2013
Reason for ban: "Illegal mod"
Your story: I was running around, lagging like hell, rubber banding back and forward across the darn landscape fighting some zombies. I had 2 of them and I was running them in circles trying to get them to spawn more. Out of the blue nearly 10 spawned, I tried to run a ways away and had the rubber banding keep popping me back. So I began to swing at them, no hits were registering until everything suddenly "caught up" a bunch got hit and flew back, I turned and started to run, but the same thing happened, this time it did not fix itself and I was kicked from the server with a message "Illegal mods".


Today has been odd. First with the delevel that was proven to be false, my petitions being ignored, being told that "floating cities" are fine by staff, now this. Did I do something to make the staff of Herocraft angry? I don't understand what is going on today and would like an explanation. I had Opti-fine, Reis Mini-map, the R3D texture pack and Better Sprinting installed. All of which I was told were legal mods allowed by the community. Which one was the wrong one to have? I can get it corrected without being banned.

While I didn't ban you, @Danda did, I can say that I verified with him that you were using illegal client mods that allowed you to attack all mobs within attack radius of you. In a 360 degree radius, you were attacking mobs that normally you wouldn't even be able to attack without moving your head around and swinging. This is in direct violation of the rules:

Modifying/Hacking your client.

• For a detailed list of mods go here.

I don't know this story of Staff ignoring petitions as every petition is answered to begin with.

 

[Jessebear89]

Gabizou, you were standing behind me earlier this very evening, not too long before this happened and after a townie and I finished a friendly duel, and I was not attacking you when I was unaware you were even there...I have died plenty of times to mobs from all angles and even more times to players. Several times today inf act. If I truly had such a mod would it not have been obvious at these times as well?
I would be happy to provide a copy of my .minecraft folder and/or screenshots to help clear this up. I explained what happened prior to the ban as lag on my part (Charter has been having disconnect issues all day) and am unsure of what else I can do to convince you.
In the end, I just have to hope that someone makes the proper decision as they did earlier today in reversing the earlier problem or inform me of what I need to do.

 

[gabizou]

Gabizou, you were standing behind me earlier this very evening, not too long before this happened and after a townie and I finished a friendly duel, and I was not attacking you when I was unaware you were even there...I have died plenty of times to mobs from all angles and even more times to players. Several times today inf act. If I truly had such a mod would it not have been obvious at these times as well?
I would be happy to provide a copy of my .minecraft folder and/or screenshots to help clear this up. I explained what happened prior to the ban as lag on my part (Charter has been having disconnect issues all day) and am unsure of what else I can do to convince you.
In the end, I just have to hope that someone makes the proper decision as they did earlier today in reversing the earlier problem or inform me of what I need to do.

Yes, and then right before you were banned, Danda and I watched you attack several mobs surrounding you in not just one instance, but three separate instances without failing to hit one mob even when mobs were coming from behind. This is known as a force field/ kill aura hack. If you want to deny using it, so be it, but there are two strong opinions agreeing that you did infact show this in the last few minutes prior to being banned. But again, as I said in my first reply, it's up to Danda whether the ban holds or not or whether he posts a response.

 

[Jessebear89]

Not sure what else to say. My low health should indicate that I was being attacked and hit by these mobs. If a "Kill aura" is 360 degrees, how was I being damaged? I am using a shared .minecraft due to my inability to load mods myself and if there was something there I clicked that caused lag or anything odd, I am sorry. I have wiped it from my PC and reinstalled a fresh Minecraft. I can always play without the minimap and other goodies, though it will be harder.
I have no intention of cheating the server. I feel that my prior posts to the issues that have sprung up have been proof that I WANT to play on Herocraft as I have met many people here and even invited a few friends to play, including one who bought Minecraft JUST to play on Herocraft.

 

[gabizou]

@Jessebear89, not to be on a witch hunt here (apparently that's what you're claiming I'm doing, I'm just doing my job), but I've noticed that there's another account logging in the server with your same IP address. This wouldn't have anything to do with you, now would it?

 

[Jessebear89]

@Danda I am still awaiting your reply to this.

@gabizou I have come to the conclusion, that due to your ignorance earlier that day and being forced to undo the de-level that you put in effect WITHOUT doing ANY form of research, then having me embarrass you in front of the entire server when I told you you were wrong and you told me you refused to do anything about it, that you are biased in this. You have followed me around during the day, as I have stated in an earlier post, and I feel that you have done nothing but stalk me while looking for any reason to have me removed from the server. Without any reply from Danda I am unsure of further, but I personally believe that you have brought in a unknowing and innocent companion to do the ban for you so that you would not be questioned. I ask for EVIDENCE of any kind to be provided for this ban to stay in effect. Screenshot, video, logs, etc. I would also like to address the fact that my petition against the player who falsely reported me was never answered. As the admin in charge of the false report I question why it was not answered.

@Kainzo I am tagging you in this so that this gets noticed. I believe you are an unbiased individual and that previous incidents between us do not hinder your judgement. I ask that unless your staff member is able to provide indisputable proof that I have committed ANY acts against the server, I ask that this be overruled and that my ban be lifted. Thank you for taking the time with this and I hope to see your response soon.

Edit1: @gabizou Did I not already state that I had someone buy MC JUST to play on this server? I live in a duplex and 6 of us share an internet connection. Robert is one of those and he is the one of whom I have mentioned. This is the perfect example of the "witch hunt" of which you speak. I ask that you stop trying to harass me and let me be. I am forwarding this post to Kainzo in hopes that it is properly corrected.

 

[Danda]

You claim lag but the zombies you were fighting were for the most part spawned by me to test the theory. At time you were instantly hitting mobs we had spawned behind you as well as hitting all other mobs around you without using AE skills. As for your claim that this was lag you were moving fluidly without stuttering which does not happen when you're lagging as badly as you are claiming in this appeal.

I made the decision to ban you and @gabizou took no part in the decision itself.

Gabizou is not targeting you as you so claim he is and what possible reason would have have to do so?

 

[Jessebear89]

@Danda According to the prior posts by Gabizou, he did indeed take part in this situation. If you would be so kind as to read my posts instead of skimming through them, you would see his reasons for wanting me gone. As for the "fluid movement" I am going to call you a liar on this matter. I cannot move more than a few blocks while sprinting without banding back, anyone who watches me more than 10 seconds can see this, and my own town mates say it is confusing as hell to watch me try to play. It is apparently a confusion of anti-cheat and the Better Sprinting Mod which keeps pulling any player using it back to the same spot after 5-10 blocks. This is a known issue that even the staff admit is a problem. I specifically recall having this happen at least TWICE during the zombie encounter right before you banned me.
These are two facts that you have lied about and now I question your own motivations. The player base on the server knows that you and Gabizou are "buddy-buddy" and it would not surprise me if you are working together. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but contradicting the post not 4 inches above your own, by Gabizou, is beyond ridiculous.

The simple fact comes down to having 2 members of the staff who seem hellbent on keeping me off of the server without Evidence. The server that until the day of this issue, my biggest problem was an argument with Kainzo that was resolved. I find it hard, no, IMPOSSIBLE to believe that I mysteriously begin to cheat while playing. Even if this was repealed, I fear that the exact same would happen. That both of you would come after me again and again with lies and slander, in an attempt to rid me from the server.

I ask one, final time: Evidence. Any place on this planet, except third world countries where children lose their hands for petty theft, evidence is required. IF the prosecutor is unable to provide any but the word of an admin with a known grudge then the case is dismissible and void of all facts. I can provide records from my internet company of local outages, of downtime as recorded by the router, of witness stories that I band back and forward every few seconds, of players who can claim my history of PRISTINE gameplay on multiple servers. Where is yours?

TLDR: Evidence and/or a length on this ban. Contradicting posts from other admins is not wise. I suggest reading everything fully.

 

[Danda]

@Danda According to the prior posts by Gabizou, he did indeed take part in this situation. If you would be so kind as to read my posts instead of skimming through them, you would see his reasons for wanting me gone. As for the "fluid movement" I am going to call you a liar on this matter. I cannot move more than a few blocks while sprinting without banding back, anyone who watches me more than 10 seconds can see this, and my own town mates say it is confusing as hell to watch me try to play. It is apparently a confusion of anti-cheat and the Better Sprinting Mod which keeps pulling any player using it back to the same spot after 5-10 blocks. This is a known issue that even the staff admit is a problem. I specifically recall having this happen at least TWICE during the zombie encounter right before you banned me.

I have not lied you are miss reading my post. I did not say gabi had no part in the situation. I stated that I was the one that made the decision to ban. gabizou was there with me and alerted me to his suspicions after seeing no-cheat flag up multiple issues in chat. I then tabbed back into game and teleported to you vanished with gabizou. We then proceeded to test our theory by spawning mobs around you while you were out hunting. After doing so we continually saw mobs being hit at the same time right the way around you with your character barely turning and moving around fluidly. Both of these together indicate that it was not lag but was indeed forcefield/kill aura. I will be pulling the no-cheat logs shortly to back up my story.

Also for the record there is a visible difference between Lag and no-cheat rubberbanding. When players are lagging they will jerk around making sudden movements, you were not doing this. You were still moving fluidly (IE I could see you looking around, swinging and moving without jerky movements) granted no-cheat was forcing you back to previous locations but other than that you were moving perfectly fine.

 

[Jessebear89]

Any edits to the .minecraft that you gave me cause it to crash. I had to find the actual Liteloader version of BetterSprinting and add it to the mods folder to get it to work. I can redowload it and/or provide a link to it. The admins use hacked clients and can try to add theirs to see if it works. (Admins: I understand you use them to assist with hidden chests and the like. I am not accusing you of anything wrong.)

Sent from mobile tablet. I apologize for any errors.

 

[Danda]

Unless you are a Moderator, Administrator or Founder, DO NOT post on Ban Appeals. Only these positions and the player in question should be posting on their appeal.

@Plum__ Do not post on other player's appeals.

On a side note you clearly haven't seen some of the previous players we have had on this server if you believe your last statement.

 

[Jessebear89]

@Danda The Anti-cheat logs? I'll point out now, that anti-cheat has known issues. Getting kicked for flying when on a boat, the sprint issue, eff.4 + miner mining speed boost, etc. It is not really proof, but if you want to post it you can.
I still ask for any evidence though. Any wise administrator would have taken screenshots or a video of some kind as evidence while having the console open to provide evidence of time/date.

 

[Danda]

@Danda The Anti-cheat logs? I'll point out now, that anti-cheat has known issues. Getting kicked for flying when on a boat, the sprint issue, eff.4 + miner mining speed boost, etc. It is not really proof, but if you want to post it you can.
I still ask for any evidence though. Any wise administrator would have taken screenshots or a video of some kind as evidence while having the console open to provide evidence of time/date.

I know anti-cheat has many issues and that is why we do not use it. Anyway yes No-cheat does create false positives and that's why we teleport to people and test our theory by hand before making a decision. However it is rare for no-cheat to create false positives on these specific checks and even when it does it's usually only a couple of times. You were filling my chat with failed no-cheat checks. However I am unable to post the logs as apparently a mistake was made when out no-cheat config was updated and nothing has been recorded to file since then. Kainzo can verify this if you do not believe me.

 

[Jessebear89]

@Danda Then you have no evidence. I have only your word and this is not suitable enough. I ask that this ban be lifted, or have a time set on it. I'll settle for 7 days, that means my ban would be lifted on this coming Monday.

I look forward to seeing you in-game.

 

[gabizou]

@Jessebear89, Just saying, it's your word against two admins. Secondly, we teleported to you and watched you not when the server had 70+ players but less than 30 players online, at that time, NoCheat will very rarely throw false positives unless it is a skill that we have known about that throws false positives. Thirdly, we both have visually confirmed that you were using a hack to hit all mobs surrounding you at the same time, which is not possible through lag since Minecraft Beta. Fourthly, I will quote from the rules:

Server staff retain the right to kick, ban, or close access to any or all users of Herocraft Online Services at any time.

In this case, I will reserve this right to close access to Herocraft Online for Hacking and Staff Disrespect.

Furthermore, I'd like to clarify a few things about myself that you clearly have no knowledge of:
- I'm an adult college student with a part time job that does not allow enough free time to think about "nothing but stalk me while looking for any reason to have me removed from the server."
- I have better things to do than worry about someone embarassing me infront of the server, honestly, I don't have enough care in the world about having to undo a de-level, it's easy to do and nothing is gained from admitting a short comming of extended research.
- I do research as far as logs go, the logs only show block edits, they do not log movement or kills. In this case, I went with the assumption that with the entire room being dark, and you being the only person having removed the remaining torches of the room, you were attempting to use it as a dark room. I didn't review the chat logs of course at first, but after your appeal, I reviewed it the next time I had time, which was the same day. So, there, bam, your levels were restored.
- I do plenty of other things better with my time than just sit and watch someone to ban them on the server
- Lastly, I honestly have no remorse banning someone for blatant hacking on the server, I'm not weak minded, I'm not gullible to think "Oh, it was lag". I'm not going to believe a sob story about your normal lag that rubberbands you every time you move 3 blocks.