Is this legal?

[j2gay]

Argument ad ignorantium. look it up

 

[joshtsai]

What about in big fights, lets say TC vs FC chests will drop upon death is it nooby to camp the chest of mastered players?

 

[j2gay]

What about in big fights, lets say TC vs FC chests will drop upon death is it nooby to camp the chest of mastered players?

Who is talking about that?

 

[joshtsai]

Who is talking about that?

Just trying to find a different side to the argument that camping death chests isn't always a dbag move and sometimes can be an approach to prevent good fighters from fighting back.

 

[j2gay]

Just trying to find a different side to the argument that camping death chests isn't always a dbag move and sometimes can be an approach to prevent good fighters from fighting back.

This is called ignoratio elenchi
Still I will discuss your topic, though it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. If two groups of ten people are fighting and the returning fighters are killed as they straggle in this is not camping. However the sporting thing to do would be to allow them to rearm and them fight them. Furthermore if one group were to be mostly victorious and then follow the defeated group to the graveyard, or upon attacking a town or base, were to assemble themselves along the route back from the graveyard that would probably be considered camping and is a pretty dbag thing to do.

 

[ThatAintFalco]

If no one used death chests, there wouldn't be a problem.

 

[j2gay]

If no one used death chests, there wouldn't be a problem.

People would find other ways to be dbags. Of that you can be assured.

 

[Jonsoon]

I don't understand why you insist on calling everyone dbags. It's a perfectly legitimate tactic.

Deathchests do not exist as a guarantee that you will get your items back. They exist to give you a chance to retrieve your items without them despawning, and for a second chance to get your items back if lost in PvP.
The attacker earned that kill, weather they out powered the victim or not, and are entitled to their loot. If the low level, or even high level victim keeps returning while naked and keeps dying, why is that the fault of the attacker?
They are not provoking the victim to keep returning, nor are they camping their spawn point.

Bottom line, the attacker earned the loot and deathchests are not meant for guaranteed return.

 

[dragonzero39]

Jonsoon is correct, and I can back his information as another guide. There have been multiple situations where my deathchests were locked from me and I couldn't retrieve the contents. It is not griefing that the play choose to lock it. It is a low move though. When you drop a death chest, the block it falls into does not belong to you, the coordinates of that chest do not belong to you, when a player regions it, it does belong to them. Its a disappointing thing, but its part of the game.

 

[j2gay]

I don't understand why you insist on calling everyone dbags. It's a perfectly legitimate tactic.

Deathchests do not exist as a guarantee that you will get your items back. They exist to give you a chance to retrieve your items without them despawning, and for a second chance to get your items back if lost in PvP.
The attacker earned that kill, weather they out powered the victim or not, and are entitled to their loot. If the low level, or even high level victim keeps returning while naked and keeps dying, why is that the fault of the attacker?
They are not provoking the victim to keep returning, nor are they camping their spawn point.

Bottom line, the attacker earned the loot and deathchests are not meant for guaranteed return.

I use the term dbag because if I say improba or indecorum most people won't understand my meaning. Look those up and then we will talk.

 

[j2gay]

Jonsoon is correct, and I can back his information as another guide. There have been multiple situations where my deathchests were locked from me and I couldn't retrieve the contents. It is not griefing that the play choose to lock it. It is a low move though. When you drop a death chest, the block it falls into does not belong to you, the coordinates of that chest do not belong to you, when a player regions it, it does belong to them. Its a disappointing thing, but its part of the game.

You have contradicted yourself. You say he is correct but that it is a low move. He says it is perfectly legitimate. Both cannot be true. As for the assertion that your being guides means any thing FYI I was a guide proctor and architect before I took a leave of absence, and likely will be again should I ever have the time to play again.

 

[joshtsai]

I think Jonsoon is saying Dbag might be to harsh of a term, this is a game and every mmo game there will always be evil players, it's what keeps the game flowing, the constant fight of good vs evil. Perhaps instead of trying to pull off a more educated look by using Latin terms, take action and build a force to counter to ones who camp chests and take action into your own hand.

 

[j2gay]

I think Jonsoon is saying Dbag might be to harsh of a term, this is a game and every mmo game there will always be evil players, it's what keeps the game flowing, the constant fight of good vs evil. Perhaps instead of trying to pull off a more educated look by using Latin terms, take action and build a force to counter to ones who camp chests and take action into your own hand.

By using the term dbag I was attempting to speak in the vernacular

 

[joshtsai]

By using the term dbag I was attempting to speak in the vernacular

I wouldn't go so far to saying that dbag is within our vernacular, I see it as a more offensive word. More appropriate and collegiate terms include:

• wanton
• wicked
• vile
• merciless

 

[j2gay]

It is intended to be equal in offensiveness to the behavior it protests. I have seen it used widely in the gaming community to describe players who be have distastefully or dishonorably

I wouldn't go so far to saying that dbag is within our vernacular, I see it as a more offensive word. More appropriate and collegiate terms include:

• wanton
• wicked
• vile
• merciless

 

[lioIIoil]

I think it is distasteful to call someone a dbag for killing a player.

I have gotten some valuable stuff out of deathchests j2gay

 

[Templar_James]

I love how this thread is all about me covering someones death chest and then some fight breaks out lul.

Yes I am a
Dick
Cocksucker
Asshole
Douchebag
Vag
Vile person
Merciless person
Wicked person
...etc you get my point

 

[j2gay]

I think it is distasteful to call someone a dbag for killing a player.

I have gotten some valuable stuff out of deathchests j2gay

So you admit to the behavior but object to the term. I'm sure we can find something else to call it. How about asshattery or jackassery, stankhole. How about bullying. That's perhaps more descriptive and less offensive.
If you prefer we could discuss the psychology behind the behavior and what type of disfunctions might cause people to engage in it.

 

[lioIIoil]

So you admit to the behavior but object to the term. I'm sure we can find something else to call it. How about asshattery or jackassery, stankhole. How about bullying. That's perhaps more descriptive and less offensive.
If you prefer we could discuss the psychology behind the behavior and what type of disfunctions might cause people to engage in it.

I never "admitted to the behavior"- Its perfectly fine to kill someone. geez stop raging that someone killed your deathchest. I can tell that happened to you

I love how this thread is all about me covering someones death chest and then some fight breaks out lul.

Yes I am a
Dick
Cocksucker
Asshole
Douchebag
Vag
Vile person
Merciless person
Wicked person
...etc you get my point

I like how you accept it

 

[Templar_James]

Yes I am also those

asshattery or jackassery, stankhole. .