Healer/Warrior/Rogue Specialization? wtf?

[spartanman118]

So you have to gear yourself in a certain way just to be on an even playing field with a disciple, whereas they need a stick? Sounds fair.

Never said you had to, just saying it makes it easier.

 

[MrAwesomeShadow]

Were was this mentioned? And even if it's "hilly" you can wear feather fall boots

In a certain height, that won't be useful anymore... ._. I guess you can get the upper hand if you get an upper hand with terror by silencing them and shit...

 

[spartanman118]

In a certain height, that won't be useful anymore... ._. I guess you can get the upper hand if you get an upper hand with terror by silencing them and shit...

It's not that hard to kill a disciple as a dread knight, trust me i've played it for awhile.

 

[MrAwesomeShadow]

Mmmkayyy can I watch you do that at height 128?

 

[Perlmutter]

Never said it was easy, just saying it's possible to kill a disciple if you understand what you are doing.

You can easily kill a disciple as a dread knight if you know how to play it right. Dread knights are easily the most "OP" class right now.

@Perlmutter If a necromancer knows how to play their class right, they can defeat a disciple.

Here, I helped you out.

 

[spartanman118]

Mmmkayyy can I watch you do that at height 128?

Why are we up that high?

 

[spartanman118]

Here, I helped you out.

I might have got twisted in words, but what I meant to say is...

Disciples are good, but no class is difficult to fight against if you know what you are doing.

 

[Perlmutter]

Why are we up that high?

Why does it matter? Hes giving you an example, your breaking the fourth wall of his example and directly challenging his question.

 

[MrAwesomeShadow]

Why are we up that high?

Yo, you said you got your feather falling boots. Have fun.

 

[MrAwesomeShadow]

I might have got twisted in words, but what I meant to say is...

Disciples are good, but no class is difficult to fight against if you know what you are doing.

Apparently, disciples are.

 

[spartanman118]

Why does it matter? Hes giving you an example, your breaking the fourth wall of his example and directly challenging his question.

Why am I being attacked? All I said was it's not that hard to fight a disciple. Chill out people, 'tis a game.

 

[spartanman118]

Apparently, disciples are.

If you were a decent Dread Knight you would understand that they are completely "OP" even when fighting disciples (Not on a mountain because it's not a smart plan to even go after/near a disciple on the mountains.)

 

[MrAwesomeShadow]

Why am I being attacked? All I said was it's not that hard to fight a disciple. Chill out people, 'tis a game.

You're not being attacked. We're testing you if you'd actually stand for your words that they are "easy" to kill. :3

 

[Perlmutter]

Why am I being attacked? All I said was it's not that hard to fight a disciple. Chill out people, 'tis a game.

Stupidity leads to hatred. Hatred leads to Herocraft forums..errr the darkside...

 

[teddytazer]

lol, you are the guy who said discples are easy to beat -.-

I was being sarcastic...

 

[MrAwesomeShadow]

Someone wanna tell me how much the disciple force push was nerfed?

 

[spartanman118]

Bottom line...

Dread knights are "OP" and you should never follow a disciple up a mountain unless you're a dragoon/ninja (maybe have a beguiler with you, but i'm not sure how well the AoE is for "safefall.")

 

[jbird112233]

Lol this is turning into a flame war. @spartanman118 is right if you know how to fight a disciple as a DK you can win. Also who in the right mind would fight a disciple while on a clif.

 

[Scycor]

As far as I see it Disciples are NOT overpowered. I've maxed disciple, on their own they can't take on a Warrior class with armor unless on a hill. Also they can barely take on a good rogue class, if a rogue spec manages to kick them they are screwed over. The only specs they have a upper hand on is Caster and Healer specs, normally because of chakra, and they can take on other healer classes because this healer class in particular is more of a combat type.

Ironfist is yes a AoE, but I honestly see don't see the big deal about it. It only does 120dmg, takes 5 stamina, 20 mana and 20 cd, if your asking me you are just over reacting. Disciples only damaging skills are really Ironfist/Kick (I don't count Forcepull/Forcepush seeing as they only do 80 dmg.)

On to the "There sticks do way to much". If you read the wiki about Disciples it basically says that they are a Natural class who use natural weapons. Why should it do any less than 60 damage? If you were to lower it anymore disciples wouldn't be able to any damage at all. Your probably thinking that they shouldn't do any damage at all just because they are a healer class, but just because they are a healer spec doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to put up a decent fight.

And now on to the last thing. Disciples have meditate because of how much mana there skills take. ONE pray takes 20-25 mana, Ironfist takes 20, and forcepull/push takes 5. Also Ironfist takes 5 stam, forcepush/pull both takes 3. If you were decent they would run out of mana no problem, that is why they have meditate.

Long story short, if you don't want them to kill you don't stand on a hill and if you are, you best be wearing those FeatherFalling 4 boots! Don't complain about classes you don't know much about.

 

[Perlmutter]

If I see a disciple on a cliff, he is immediately in a "safe-zone" as in I can not kill him. As in there is no use trying to fight him. Remember when shield reflect on paladins was 300%? There was no use in trying to fight them. This is how the disciple is, they need a Nerf.