Dragoon Needs Love

[c12095]

Sleaker seemed to agree on the high powered slow for Impale. 15 damage plus a thick slow might be worth the mana, allowing you to help slower allies to catch up for some dps.

I mean 35% mana is a charge, which gets me to the target and almost always more than 2 hits on the target, where as 15 damage with a 6 block range still lets the target run scaird.

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

I think Impale is also intended to have a slight knock-up, though it didn't seem to when I was last a Dragoon...but 15 damage is fairly respectable on a class that has fairly low dps, it's just not worth the mana compared to Jump.

 

[c12095]

I think Impale is also intended to have a slight knock-up, though it didn't seem to when I was last a Dragoon...but 15 damage is fairly respectable on a class that has fairly low dps, it's just not worth the mana compared to Jump.

Its a knock-back, and its very slight. I do agree 15 is respectable however its not practical with the mana cost, like you said, it cant compare to jump or charge.

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

But if the slow is implemented, I think it will be worthwhile as a utility skill.

 

[Dazureus]

I mean 35% mana is a charge, which gets me to the target and almost always more than 2 hits on the target, where as 15 damage with a 6 block range still lets the target run scaird.

There are situational differences there. Charge will let you close in but it means you're exposed to melee from the opponent, and if they can use a mobility skill of their own they could still escape, or fight back. Ranged slow means the enemy can't maneuver as well and you can get the drop on them at your own leisure or that of any companions you have.

@TicklesTheMighty I'm not sure that we're supposed to have low dps, just not on the scale of Ninja or Samurai. I do think mana adjustment could be in order, but I'll not make any major suggestions there until I level some more.

 

[c12095]

There are situational differences there. Charge will let you close in but it means you're exposed to melee from the opponent, and if they can use a mobility skill of their own they could still escape, or fight back. Ranged slow means the enemy can't maneuver as well and you can get the drop on them at your own leisure or that of any companions you have.

@TicklesTheMighty I'm not sure that we're supposed to have low dps, just not on the scale of Ninja or Samurai. I do think mana adjustment could be in order, but I'll not make any major suggestions there until I level some more.

btw that level are you at now?

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

@Dazureus I can't say anything about what we're supposed to have, but 7 attack damage with Diamond is fairly low compared to Samurai, all Rogue classes, all Caster classes, and it's now tied with Monk's attack damage.

 

[c12095]

Yea but 110 hp makes up for it somewhat, at least I think so.

 

[Spicycheez]

Don't forget all the armor you dragoons get to wear.

 

[c12095]

@Spicycheez

Actually I rarely wear armor. Unless I know that its about to be a huge fight(7+ people)

 

[Dazureus]

Don't forget all the armor you dragoons get to wear.

Armor isn't a given, though. Diamond slacks get expensive. It's possible that you'll come across a decked out Dragoon, but generally you won't.

I'm only in the low 20s at the moment, heh. I think I have 95 hp.

 

[c12095]

Armor isn't a given, though. Diamond slacks get expensive. It's possible that you'll come across a decked out Dragoon, but generally you won't.

I'm only in the low 20s at the moment, heh. I think I have 95 hp.

@Dazureus Well you best get mineing!

 

[Spicycheez]

Yes, but you guys can wear full iron which I am very jelly of seeing that iron is easy and very cheap to get.

 

[c12095]

Yes, but you guys can wear full iron which I am very jelly of seeing that iron is easy and very cheap to get.

So can Paladins and Dreadknights, also clerics if im not mistaken.

 

[Spicycheez]

Yes but you guys do more damage with your diamond shovel. Your shovel only uses one diamond which overall ends up being cheaper.

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

Well yes, we are a Warrior class after all, I'm not saying the Dragoon should necessarily have more damage, I'm just saying that Impale's 15 damage is a welcome addition since we do have relatively low damage output due to our Warrior tankiness and Dragoon mobility. My main concern is the mana cost.

 

[Dazureus]

As far as mana, what sounds reasonable for this slow effect? If it was a longish duration I would say 30 is fine.

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

If it's a solid slow with 15 damage, then the current 35 mana might even be reasonable.

 

[c12095]

Yea I wouldn't really care about the 35% if it had a nice slow attached to it. Just something to sweeten the deal.

 

[c12095]

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