Suggestion Beguilers

[EmilyRoseV]

Hey,

So I have noticed beguilers are quite a bit better than other classes maybe you could consider nerfing the damage a bit. I understand it has mama problems but still it gets 2 combo's of on me and one combo does 6 hearts dead. The piggify doesn't allow you to hit the target or turn around. Maybe make it so you can silence the target while being in piggify or blink out. Plaguebombs damage is a bit to high maybe consider nerfing it so it does 1.5 hearts dmg and also bring down the mana cost on it to make up for it a little bit. This way it would balance the class a bit more. I'm pretty sure some people will disagree with me on this one. But this is my personal opinion! )

Kind regards,

EmilyRoseV

 

[Dielan9999]

I think I'd rather see other classes buffed to match the Beguiler. It's only a little stronger, but some classes are pretty behind

 

[Eldrex]

I think its fine the way it is.. I mastered illusionist and I would still be able to be lied every now and then, even by T1 players.

 

[EmilyRoseV]

The only way how I could beat a beguilers was with NecroMancer. Probably people could also beat it with like berserker but that's kind of it.
In fact Casters are a bit too good in PvP. Maybe they could consider buffing the other classes a bit more. There are classes that like no one plays which is kind off a waste. So maybe you could buff the classes so people would play the class again

 

[Eldrex]

The only way how I could beat a beguilers was with NecroMancer. Probably people could also beat it with like berserker but that's kind of it.
In fact Casters are a bit too good in PvP. Maybe they could consider buffing the other classes a bit more. There are classes that like no one plays which is kind off a waste. So maybe you could buff the classes so people would play the class again

That's only because of the 1.9 mechanics ruining warriors and other melee classes. @Kainzo is working on adjusting the classes and such to make them work better I believe?

 

[DailyDoseOfVitMe]

Hey,

So I have noticed beguilers are quite a bit better than other classes maybe you could consider nerfing the damage a bit. I understand it has mama problems but still it gets 2 combo's of on me and one combo does 6 hearts dead. The piggify doesn't allow you to hit the target or turn around. Maybe make it so you can silence the target while being in piggify or blink out. Plaguebombs damage is a bit to high maybe consider nerfing it so it does 1.5 hearts dmg and also bring down the mana cost on it to make up for it a little bit. This way it would balance the class a bit more. I'm pretty sure some people will disagree with me on this one. But this is my personal opinion! )

Kind regards,

EmilyRoseV

I agree beguilers are too OP, in piggify you can't do anything and combine it with fireball, pulse, and plague bomb it does a ton of damage, then u can just beguile them away until your cool downs are done, then just repeat and by the time you kill them you wont even have to worry about mana.

 

[Eldrex]

I agree beguilers are too OP, in piggify you can't do anything and combine it with fireball, pulse, and plague bomb it does a ton of damage, then u can just beguile them away until your cool downs are done, then just repeat and by the time you kill them you wont even have to worry about mana.

Silences are a thing. Not sure if escape artist works on piggify, but if it does there you go. Arcane transfer too maybe? Not sure. The opponent just needs to know how to combat them, and how to play their class well.

 

[EmilyRoseV]

Silences are a thing. Not sure if escape artist works on piggify, but if it does there you go. Arcane transfer too maybe? Not sure. The opponent just needs to know how to combat them, and how to play their class well.

Uhm nothing works, Silence doesn't work you can hit your enemy escape artist doesn't work nothing does

 

[EmilyRoseV]

Silences are a thing. Not sure if escape artist works on piggify, but if it does there you go. Arcane transfer too maybe? Not sure. The opponent just needs to know how to combat them, and how to play their class well.

And btw don't lie you do know escape artist and stuff like that doesn't work. When we were skyping and you were beguiler u told me to fight you and you even told me escape artist doesn't work.

 

[iAlchemist]

Silences are a thing. Not sure if escape artist works on piggify, but if it does there you go. Arcane transfer too maybe? Not sure. The opponent just needs to know how to combat them, and how to play their class well.

Pigging silences, roots, and essentially fucks the guy who got hit by it. I think the silence+root is a little insane due to it being extremely easy to land, and the amount of burst a beguiler has. If you get dignified, you're essentially dead. The burst damage puts you too far behind to catch up unless you're a support class. The only class I've had that just outright counters beguiler, is necromancer. Necromancer doesn't have instant burst, but it does have the ability to out damage beguiler on DPS while beguiler contends with its CD's. This paired with Necromancer's strong sustain during this time allows for the necro to sustain possibly three or even four combo attAcks, more than enough time for the necromancer to kill the beguiler. Other classes don't share this useful trait, making the beguiler just decimate them

 

[LordZelkova]

Pigging silences, roots, and essentially fucks the guy who got hit by it. I think the silence+root is a little insane due to it being extremely easy to land, and the amount of burst a beguiler has. If you get dignified, you're essentially dead. The burst damage puts you too far behind to catch up unless you're a support class. The only class I've had that just outright counters beguiler, is necromancer. Necromancer doesn't have instant burst, but it does have the ability to out damage beguiler on DPS while beguiler contends with its CD's. This paired with Necromancer's strong sustain during this time allows for the necro to sustain possibly three or even four combo attAcks, more than enough time for the necromancer to kill the beguiler. Other classes don't share this useful trait, making the beguiler just decimate them

Honestly I think the issue is Pigify. Stun sure, but this is a complete freeze on everything. No need to silence the rider.

 

[EmilyRoseV]

Honestly I think the issue is Pigify. Stun sure, but this is a complete freeze on everything. No need to silence the rider.

Also it doesn't allow you to hit the beguiler or move your cursor. Which is quite stupid. Make it so it just like entangles the target. Like wizards ability.

 

[Eldrex]

Honestly I think the issue is Pigify. Stun sure, but this is a complete freeze on everything. No need to silence the rider.

Also it doesn't allow you to hit the beguiler or move your cursor. Which is quite stupid. Make it so it just like entangles the target. Like wizards ability.

Simple solution. Remove the silence.

 

[Eldrex]

And btw don't lie you do know escape artist and stuff like that doesn't work. When we were skyping and you were beguiler u told me to fight you and you even told me escape artist doesn't work.

I do not recall saying this, or anything close to it. Derp

 

[EmilyRoseV]

Simple solution. Remove the silence.

This won't do silence or not you can't even move your cursor. That means you can't even aim any skills on the beguiler besides aoe's but the range is like 10 freaking blocks so aoe's won't work

 

[EmilyRoseV]

I do not recall saying this, or anything close to it. Derp

That time when you went full charisma to troll.

 

[Eldrex]

This won't do silence or not you can't even move your cursor. That means you can't even aim any skills on the beguiler besides aoe's but the range is like 10 freaking blocks so aoe's won't work

Escape artist

That time when you went full charisma to troll.

Dont remember still. When does your vacation end? We miss you. (not) jk

 

[iAlchemist]

Escape artist

Dont remember still. When does your vacation end? We miss you. (not) jk

Escape artist does not work while silenced.

 

[EmilyRoseV]

Escape artist

Dont remember still. When does your vacation end? We miss you. (not) jk

And if they do take away silence you are basically saying only ninja can beat it and necro ofc. And it ends in 8 days

 

[Eldrex]

Escape artist does not work while silenced.

That is why I said REMOVE the silence.