Suggestion Balance Post

[malikdanab]

Berserker Changes:

Berserker Rage- Reduce damage bonus from 40% to 30% and decrease bonus per % health missing from .5% to .3%
Maim- Increase cd from 8 to 10
Provoke- Decrease damage mod from 50% to 20% Increase duriation from 8 to 10 increase cd from 20 to 25
Whirlwind- increase cd from 15 to 20
Undying Will- increase cd to 45 and decrease duriation to 3
Bladegrasp- decrease duriation to 3 seconds and decrease cooldown to 90

 

[Kainzo]

Berserker Changes:

Berserker Rage- Reduce damage bonus from 40% to 30% and decrease bonus per % health missing from .5% to .3%
Maim- Increase cd from 8 to 10
Provoke- Decrease damage mod from 50% to 20% Increase duriation from 8 to 10 increase cd from 20 to 25
Whirlwind- increase cd from 15 to 20
Undying Will- increase cd to 45 and decrease duriation to 3
Bladegrasp- decrease duriation to 3 seconds and decrease cooldown to 90

All of these changes have been placed in. Provoke to 25% not 20%.
Bladegrasp kept the same for now... cd is at 90000

 

[HerpDerp24]

I've played Druid for a while now, and I don't think the problem with Druid is its damage, it just has an insane kite ability and great self heals. I think increasing the Cooldown on soothe by a second or two and nerfing the self heal on healingbloom would be enough.

I can agree with this @Irishman81

 

[MunchlaxHero]

Hurry Malik say ninja needs a rework since ur the only one that is listened to even tho u don't PvP.

 

[Kainzo]

Shaman:
All totems have been given 25s cooldowns instead of 35s. All totem mana costs have been decreased to 175, Healing Totem increased to 250.

 

[Irishman81]

@Kainzo my ideas for ninja:

• Increase base health by 30
• Replace garrote with "grevious wound" which does (30 + 1 str) physical damage and slows the target for 3 seconds

For disc:

• Increase base armor weight by 5
• Lower meditate cooldown back to 60 seconds.

@Jrr5556 [USERGROUP=38]@Balance Team[/USERGROUP]

 

[MalaWolf]

@Kainzo my ideas for ninja:

• Increase base health by 30
• Replace garrote with "grevious wound" which does (30 + 1 str) physical damage and slows the target for 3 seconds

For disc:

• Increase base armor weight by 5
• Lower meditate cooldown back to 60 seconds.

@Jrr5556 [USERGROUP=38][USERGROUP=38]@Balance Team[/USERGROUP][/USERGROUP]

Pretty good.
Maybe meditate from 90 to 75, imo disciple has been to good for too long, it needs some buffs but not anything that would make it op.

 

[HerpDerp24]

Pretty good.
Maybe meditate from 90 to 75, imo disciple has been to good for too long, it needs some buffs but not anything that would make it op.

Ninja sounds good but is the base left-click damage on disc going to change?

 

[Jrr_]

@Kainzo my ideas for ninja:

• Increase base health by 30
• Replace garrote with "grevious wound" which does (30 + 1 str) physical damage and slows the target for 3 seconds

For disc:

• Increase base armor weight by 5
• Lower meditate cooldown back to 60 seconds.

@Jrr5556 [USERGROUP=38][USERGROUP=38]@Balance Team[/USERGROUP][/USERGROUP]

I forgot to add in the slow for ninja, I like these ideas.

 

[HerpDerp24]

@Kainzo my ideas for ninja:

• Increase base health by 30
• Replace garrote with "grevious wound" which does (30 + 1 str) physical damage and slows the target for 3 seconds

For disc:

• Increase base armor weight by 5
• Lower meditate cooldown back to 60 seconds.

@Jrr5556 [USERGROUP=38][USERGROUP=38]@Balance Team[/USERGROUP][/USERGROUP]

I approve here as well.

 

[Xhazed]

Ninja needs a more usefull smoke or like the skill for runeblade that makes u like an enderman instead this one for ninja makes u disapear for like 0.5 sec or some number and you reapear then you disapear as many times as what ever balance thinks. BUT you can left click as manu times without toggling it off

 

[HerpDerp24]

For wizard: Can we see the slightest (and I mean very small) reduction in some of the mana costs for some of its moves? Just seems like it runs out of mana pretty quick. Hopefully this doesn't effect the somewhat balance of it.

 

[Irishman81]

Ummm Were there any undocumented changes to druid? With 23 int ire is telling me its doing 100 damage and not the ~135 it used to. Pretty sure some of the self heals are different as well.

 

[JupiterRome]

Ummm Were there any undocumented changes to druid? With 23 int ire is telling me its doing 100 damage and not the ~135 it used to. Pretty sure some of the self heals are different as well.

Whats the reason for Balance team anymore if Kainzo just decides the changes? These are not documented like they should be.

For wizard: Can we see the slightest (and I mean very small) reduction in some of the mana costs for some of its moves? Just seems like it runs out of mana pretty quick. Hopefully this doesn't effect the somewhat balance of it.

Wizard is already such a good class I don't understand why people want it buffed, it does so much damage and has some of the best mobility in the game.....

 

[Irishman81]

For wizard: Can we see the slightest (and I mean very small) reduction in some of the mana costs for some of its moves? Just seems like it runs out of mana pretty quick. Hopefully this doesn't effect the somewhat balance of it.

To be a good wizard you need to hit a good percentage of your fireballs. They do so much damage and don't cost a ton. The reason I think people want to have the skills cost less mana is because they don't land a high percentage of the fireballs. If you land the skills in fights you'll notice you will have a lot more mana at the end.

 

[HerpDerp24]

To be a good wizard you need to hit a good percentage of your fireballs. They do so much damage and don't cost a ton. The reason I think people want to have the skills cost less mana is because they don't land a high percentage of the fireballs. If you land the skills in fights you'll notice you will have a lot more mana at the end.

Hmmm. Ok then I'll keep practicing and see if this helps.

 

[Kainzo]

Whats the reason for Balance team anymore if Kainzo just decides the changes? These are not documented like they should be.


Wizard is already such a good class I don't understand why people want it buffed, it does so much damage and has some of the best mobility in the game.....

Changes are documented - even still some changes can get slip past when blanket changes are made to things that can effect a class without us knowing.

Ire wasn't changed.
Heals for druid wasnt changed.

 

[MunchlaxHero]

To be a good wizard you need to hit a good percentage of your fireballs. They do so much damage and don't cost a ton. The reason I think people want to have the skills cost less mana is because they don't land a high percentage of the fireballs. If you land the skills in fights you'll notice you will have a lot more mana at the end.

Wrong, all wrong. Wizard isnt op whatever people say, Yes it's a 1v1 master vs majority of classes but doesn't mean it's good and it is mana hungry I can kill one person and be completely out of mana, also a good wizard doesn't have to hit all fireballs that's a load of shit, a good wizard has to know when and where to use such skills, I'm not the best fireball hitter but I'm a pro wizard which has beaten ur wizard many times in the past. I know from experience if you want to be a good wizard you need to learn when to use your skills. I bet you would never use arcane blast on a cleric, bm, shaman, or druid. Fireball accuracy doesn't make a good wizard knowing when and where to use such skills is key, anyone who has 1v1 me as wizard can see that.
Also wizard a good class, tell me that when I lose four hearts from divinestun, also wizard gets focused hardcore in group fights.

 

[Irishman81]

Wrong, all wrong. Wizard isnt op whatever people say, Yes it's a 1v1 master vs majority of classes but doesn't mean it's good and it is mana hungry I can kill one person and be completely out of mana, also a good wizard doesn't have to hit all fireballs that's a load of shit, a good wizard has to know when and where to use such skills, I'm not the best fireball hitter but I'm a pro wizard which has beaten ur wizard many times in the past. I know from experience if you want to be a good wizard you need to learn when to use your skills. I bet you would never use arcane blast on a cleric, bm, shaman, or druid. Fireball accuracy doesn't make a good wizard knowing when and where to use such skills is key, anyone who has 1v1 me as wizard can see that.
Also wizard a good class, tell me that when I lose four hearts from divinestun, also wizard gets focused hardcore in group fights.

You're telling me that a wizard hitting a high percentage of a skill that does 150 damage doesn't make or break a wizard...

And just because some of the older pvpers are gone doesn't give you the right to say you're a good wizard...I don't even play wizard

 

[Irishman81]

Changes are documented - even still some changes can get slip past when blanket changes are made to things that can effect a class without us knowing.

Ire wasn't changed.
Heals for druid wasnt changed.

The scaling on Druids ire was drastically changed for 2-4 days on live, it's back to normal now