Suggestion Balance Changes

[CoolBeans279]

@TrueCorruptor You say raise bm's combust blood from 4 to 10 seconds, but the wiki shows it is 6 seconds? did you make a mistake or was it changed?

 

[PewPewPewLasers]

@TrueCorruptor You say raise bm's combust blood from 4 to 10 seconds, but the wiki shows it is 6 seconds? did you make a mistake or was it changed?

By 4 seconds, up to 10 seconds.
4 + 6 = 10

 

[CoolBeans279]

By 4 seconds, up to 10 seconds.
4 + 6 = 10

Ah i read that wrong, ty for clearing things up.

 

[RShooter2000]

I think Bloodmage's damage is in a good spot. It lacks in CC, but makes up for that in DPS. Making it a very good group fighter. It needs its DPS to sustain bloodbond, or else bloodbond would be a waste of mana. You need to be able to get your combo's off quick.

 

[JupiterRome]

BM is pretty op tbh, I could see a damage nerf, cuz heals are actully pretty good if you do it right

 

[JupiterRome]

@Ahrall once I'm back and test is up u wanna Druid vs ninja you, if it's super easy why can I make Irish run away and keep coming back and running (repeating so line 7 fights before he just stopped trying) Just saying

 

[Jrr_]

@Ahrall once I'm back and test is up u wanna Druid vs ninja you, if it's super easy why can I make Irish run away and keep coming back and running (repeating so line 7 fights before he just stopped trying) Just saying

Jupiter you are just so amazing! is that what you wanted to hear?

 

[lordprettyflack0]

Beguiler

• Give MassPiggify a 1s warmup
• Remove Entangle (I honestly do not know why it still has this skill; when it first got it, it was a filler for piggify)
• Increase Piggify CD by 5

gg lyfe

 

[RShooter2000]

BM is pretty op tbh, I could see a damage nerf, cuz heals are actully pretty good if you do it right

You obviously didn't read what I just said, it needs it's DPS because it has very little CC. You nerf the damage you wouldn't be able to kill anything fast enough before it killed you and your heals wouldn't do anything. There is a reason each skill has 1.5 second warmup so you can't use that damage and kite for days. Your siphonblood and combustblood combo does about 190 without enlightenment and takes 3 seconds in warmups total. A wizard's fireball does that damage with 1 hit and is instant cast.

 

[Irishman81]

@Ahrall once I'm back and test is up u wanna Druid vs ninja you, if it's super easy why can I make Irish run away and keep coming back and running (repeating so line 7 fights before he just stopped trying) Just saying

Lol, I love how every time you try to say how Druid/you are good, this is the only thing you can say

 

[JupiterRome]

@Irishman81 @Jrr5556
Druid is op, I just disagree with him saying it's very easy, I could have done it better but I'd rather make myself seem like a god

@RShooter2000 tbh no damage nerf but warm up on bloodritual seems fair

 

[Ahrall]

Here is my reasoning for ninja vs druid being very easy for me. You have two sources of damage, ire and bolt. If I see you using ire I am going to blind you so the cast doesn't go off and by the time the blind is over I will be on top of you.
Once I am on top of you there is no way to get me off of you. If you entangle and run, I will judge the situation and either pelt you with arrows or escape artist to prevent you from running. If you ever try to bolt me I will either blind you or smoke to prevent all the damage. If I am not slamming you with left clicks I am throwing shurikens up your ass and if I see a big heal going off I will probably kick it off of you. If I can't kick it off guess what? You are still eating shurikens which (if my aim is on point) will out dps any healing you might have. Your plethora of warm ups make it extremely easy for me to stay on top of you and the fact that your offensive skills have cooldowns that line up perfectly with my defensive ones make it an extremely easy fight.
Have I lost to Druids before? Yes. And when I look back at the fight afterwards (because I film everything) I can say "wow I screwed that part up big time"
Will I "fight you on test" no, because I have nothing to prove. If I beat you, so what? I'm not going to put it as my signature and flaunt it to everyone. And if I lose, so what? I got outplayed, plain and simple. Happens quite regularly actually. I have no ego to feed, I have no statement to make

 

[PewPewPewLasers]

Here is my reasoning for ninja vs druid being very easy for me. You have two sources of damage, ire and bolt. If I see you using ire I am going to blind you so the cast doesn't go off and by the time the blind is over I will be on top of you.
Once I am on top of you there is no way to get me off of you. If you entangle and run, I will judge the situation and either pelt you with arrows or escape artist to prevent you from running. If you ever try to bolt me I will either blind you or smoke to prevent all the damage. If I am not slamming you with left clicks I am throwing shurikens up your ass and if I see a big heal going off I will probably kick it off of you. If I can't kick it off guess what? You are still eating shurikens which (if my aim is on point) will out dps any healing you might have. Your plethora of warm ups make it extremely easy for me to stay on top of you and the fact that your offensive skills have cooldowns that line up perfectly with my defensive ones make it an extremely easy fight.
Have I lost to Druids before? Yes. And when I look back at the fight afterwards (because I film everything) I can say "wow I screwed that part up big time"
Will I "fight you on test" no, because I have nothing to prove. If I beat you, so what? I'm not going to put it as my signature and flaunt it to everyone. And if I loose, so what? I got outplayed, plain and simple. Happens quite regularly actually. I have no ego to feed, I have no statement to make

I'll give you a winner if you change "loose" to lose

 

[Glacial_Reign]

@Ahrall once I'm back and test is up u wanna Druid vs ninja you, if it's super easy why can I make Irish run away and keep coming back and running (repeating so line 7 fights before he just stopped trying) Just saying

I like how you go on and on about this....
Stop thinking that you are actually good at druid and maybe it's the ninjas fault that he doesn't understand the class that he plays.

 

[HeroGuy426]

Ninja vs Pyromancer = Win

Please teach me

Ninja vs Runeblade = Usually loose

Wut?

 

[Ahrall]

I'll give you a winner if you change "loose" to lose

Lol that's embarrassing

Ninja vs pyro is all about you using backflip to avoid their damage. Most important being great combustion. If you see them warming up great combustion, dragons breath, or shoring out a darkbolt, backflip as fast as you can (or kick the great combustion)
If you are fast enough you can usually avoid a large majority of their damage
(Or you can kite with shurikens because pyro has no mobility)

Ninja vs runeblade is odd for me. A lot of people say that it's an easy fight and I've seen ninjas destroy runeblades, but I never have. They just have nothing that I can counter and their damage is insane. Maybe I'm missing something but I have a hard time against runeblades

 

[malikdanab]

Lol that's embarrassing

Ninja vs pyro is all about you using backflip to avoid their damage. Most important being great combustion. If you see them warming up great combustion, dragons breath, or shoring out a darkbolt, backflip as fast as you can (or kick the great combustion)
If you are fast enough you can usually avoid a large majority of their damage
(Or you can kite with shurikens because pyro has no mobility)

Ninja vs runeblade is odd for me. A lot of people say that it's an easy fight and I've seen ninjas destroy runeblades, but I never have. They just have nothing that I can counter and their damage is insane. Maybe I'm missing something but I have a hard time against runeblades

Runeblades rely on sticking on their target to apply their runes. If you want to win against them, just use eviscerate/shurikens and kite as much as possible. You can't win in a straight up duel, but runeblade doesn't have any skills to out DPS a ninja's nuke.

 

[JupiterRome]

Tbh the main reason I made that post is to prove
1. Druids op as fuck
2. I disagree that it is a very easy fight against a decent Druid

 

[PewPewPewLasers]

Only changes I would make to Dreadknight are making soulleech restore mana equal to the damage dealth, would help with the mana issues the class can run in to, as well as making manafreeze lower the wisdom of the person it's used on.

 

[ChazzaMaGazza]

Only changes I would make to Dreadknight are making soulleech restore mana equal to the damage dealth, would help with the mana issues the class can run in to, as well as making manafreeze lower the wisdom of the person it's used on.

And lower dread aura mana costs as it's too much for what it does.