The problem with Beastmasters

[Spicycheez]

I have recently seen that Beastmasters are getting heavily nerfed. The first thing I had noticed was that the cooldown for root was extended. I was quite happy with that until I realised it was 14 seconds. Really? 14 seconds? I would be happy with 8, or maybe even 10 but 14? This is far too long in my opinion.

The second problem came to me when I tried to spawn three wolves. It kept saying that I had too many wolves when I only had one. I did a little bit of research, and asked Kain, he told me that it was reduced to one wolf that had higher hp and was stronger. I actually found it hard to tell the difference as the wolf still died in 3-4 hits. I used to enjoy having three wolves as when someone killed one, there would still be two other wolves charging towards the victim.

While every class gets better and better, why are the Beastmasters getting nerfed like shit? As Kain said, every class has an "oh shit" button. Samurais have bladegrasp, ninja have smoke and backstab and rangers have strong bows. Now with Beastmasters getting nerfed, what do we have? Gills?

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

I don't think 5 second duration, 5 second cooldown was very fair. Right now according to the wiki, most classes have 15s cooldown on Root, with Ranger at 12. Your root cooldown seems pretty reasonable. That being said, aside from the horrendously powerful wolf glitch, causing wolves to deal seemingly 10-60 freaking damage...the lone wolf doesn't seem like it will compare in dps or in health to the three wolf setup, it really looks like a pretty hard double nerf on the Beast Master front (aside from the current two shot super wolf of ultimate death).

 

[GreekCrackShot]

Beastmasters are fine. They pretty much truck me at a master ninja. The dogs are the key, i dont think you should complain about root, you're lucky you even get that skill at all. Bite is a nasty skill and BMs have more health than other rogue specs i believe

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

Beastmasters are fine. They pretty much truck me at a master ninja. The dogs are the key, i dont think you should complain about root, you're lucky you even get that skill at all. Bite is a nasty skill and BMs have more health than other rogue specs i believe

Wiki Info:
Bard: 80 (Chain Set + Iron Legs)
Ninja: 90 (Chain Helm)
Beast Master: 95 (Chain Chest)
Ranger: 100 (Chain Set + Iron Helm)

 

[Spicycheez]

I dont mind the root, its the fact that we only get ONE wolf that kinda pisses me off.

 

[zDylannn]

I hate BM's but they deserve at least 2 wolves, because if one dies your kinda fucked you need at least 2 imo. Do BM's have a bow still? or did they even? I can't remember.

 

[Kainzo]

I hate BM's but they deserve at least 2 wolves, because if one dies your kinda fucked you need at least 2 imo. Do BM's have a bow still? or did they even? I can't remember.

If one dies you can instantly summon another, doink.

I dont mind the root, its the fact that we only get ONE wolf that kinda pisses me off.

The new wolf is stronger, has more health and overall is better. Managing one is easier and causes less lag on the server.

 

[zDylannn]

If one dies you can instantly summon another, doink.

The new wolf is stronger, has more health and overall is better. Managing one is easier and causes less lag on the server.

D: But what happens when that one dies too!

 

[Kainzo]

Stop abusing wolves and lick them -mkay

 

[Kainzo]

So - after investigating... the wolf was doing 20dmg at level 50. We're tweaking it a bit to be a little less top heavy.

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

So - after investigating... the wolf was doing 20dmg at level 50. We're tweaking it a bit to be a little less top heavy.

Hmmm, I still don't know how I got killed in two hits, but at least it's something.

 

[Kainzo]

Hmmm, I still don't know how I got killed in two hits, but at least it's something.

thanks for reporting

 

[TicklesTheMighty]

thanks for reporting

No problem, though I feel like this might count as a thread-jacking...

 

[Dielan9999]

I miss having 3 wolves but I agree with anything that helps lag.

We still have the bow, and axe

 

[Kainzo]

I agree - its a change but I feel it is in the right direction.

 

[Dielan9999]

It's easier to manage one wolf anyway. It gets pretty cramped in tight spaces like mines or the server rail.

 

[GreekCrackShot]

I think i faced b0rgin like 3 times, and he beat me everytime because his wolf drained me so much.

 

[Dielan9999]

I think i faced b0rgin like 3 times, and he beat me everytime because his wolf drained me so much.

Before or after the one wolf deal?

I think one strong wolf is more fair for everyone else then 3 weaker ones, because they can attack you at the same time and it's three targest to kill whilst I beat the crap out of you with 10hp dmg axe and 28hp dmg arrows!

 

[GreekCrackShot]

@Dielan9999 after. this was yesterday.

 

[Dielan9999]

@Dielan9999 after. this was yesterday.

Also consider the level 50 BM has like 94 HP, where you have 89 as a Ninja.

So the BM can take more hits than you, that's normal, but what about your increased damage with diamond swords? It's only 2hp damage more. Sure you could have used your skills like smoke and backstab to gain an edge, but otherwise you are nearly on par with the BM in a face to face slapfight. The addition of that wolf is what got ya!

However I can't assume you were just face-to-face slapfighting the guy, how were you approaching the fight?