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Some Updates to Heroes

kriskills

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Ninjas: started as OP when diamond sword could 3 shot people, and smoke would give you the element of surprise. Now they have seemed to fall along the wayside. Sure safefall is cool, but the high hitting ninja has been surpassed by many classes. We now hit 12 with our sword, and I have never had blackjack work in all my times fighting with its low % at working. Star is gone now but was pretty useless with eggs as reagent, and our only pvp skills are sneak and smoke. But I have some fixes that could help.

Fixes:
  1. Give ninjas poison, pretty much like soulfire, maybe with green fire (not sure whats possible or not) This will give them the extra power in their attacks, since pallys can hit higher than ninjas with their soulfire.
  2. Changed the reagent of star to snowball, and make it non spammable. then we will actually have to aim for the target. And give it back.
Wizards= Pretty good, have lots of abilities, will have to just see which reagent works with the skills. EDIT: Bolt is def overpowered!! 1 hits me at full hp at lvl 50. Needs a nerf.

Paladins = Seriously Kainzo, when are you going to nerf this class a bit. Everyone knows they are OP, can hit 30 with soulfire (high % chance), highest hp, best armor, heals, revive, invuln., and they hit 6 with diamond sword.

Fixes:
  1. Make soulfire not work in pvp, or make them stay on fire for 1 or 2 seconds instead on the 10 or so that ends up making them hit 30 when its done. That alone would even them out, because soulfire wrecks people. 30 damage is pretty much half of most classes hp in one hit. Make them a tank, which means low attack.
Necromancers:NEED WORK! They are just sitting ducks. they have fireball, and "oh, heres my mana" they def need working skills, and are not even close to complete. Specially since nether wont be out for a long while.

Rangers: Have gotten a bit of work recently. Fire arrow is great, high arrow damage, and track is an insanely great skill to have. Only thing i would do is arrows dmg prob 8. 10 is pretty high for projectiles.

Dragoon: They are where they should be if every class was balanced. Pretty good hp, Jump and charge are some decent pvp skills, and they hit fair with their diamond shovels.

Just some of my thoughts on balancing

Tell me your thoughts on balancing, and feel free to add classes that arent on here or suggestions

Will work on this more later
 

kriskills

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Apr 3, 2011
Rangers just got a bit of love, I do not know any beastmasters so i cant say what they have or not, but if you do, feel free to post what you think needs to be changed, and whats good about them.
 

look_out

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Mar 27, 2011
Rangers just got a bit of love, I do not know any beastmasters so i cant say what they have or not, but if you do, feel free to post what you think needs to be changed, and whats good about them.

umm just to let you know ninjas no longer have star its not in their /skill page any more they get their first skill at 30 :X which is blackjack and well thats pretty much useless and safefall is at 40 i think and smoke it the best skill i say by far.

^ information there is about a week old sorry if it no longer apply, i changed classes so i don't know anymore
 

kriskills

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umm just to let you know ninjas no longer have star its not in their /skill page any more they get their first skill at 30 :X which is blackjack and well thats pretty much useless and safefall is at 40 i think and smoke it the best skill i say by far.

^ information there is about a week old sorry if it no longer apply, i changed classes so i don't know anymore

Yeah, forgot about that. Its is bad news when you get your first actual skill at level 30. Wizards have them about every 5 - 10 levels. So 4 skills that ninjas have
 

look_out

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Wizards are wizards they supposed to have a lot of skill and lil melee dps how they are.
ninjas just need a skill at lvl 10 or 15 ish then they will be fine their a good class
 

kriskills

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Well my friend is a pally. so i fun fight him all the time, and ninjas will be good when pallys are nerf'd a bit. I can compete with most of the other classes on a 1v1
 

whitemagehealu

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Jun 25, 2011
Yeah, forgot about that. Its is bad news when you get your first actual skill at level 30. Wizards have them about every 5 - 10 levels. So 4 skills that ninjas have

Samurai's first skill is at 30. I'm not even counting Star because it's useless with how ultra rare eggs are. You have 4 skills to our 2. xD
 

kriskills

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Samurai's first skill is at 30. I'm not even counting Star because it's useless with how ultra rare eggs are. You have 4 skills to our 2. xD
See, add that in there. I am not saying I know all the classes, because I dont. Write what you think needs to be added on some classes to make them balanced, and etc. I am just stating what I think needs to be changed on the ones I know
 

kriskills

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Edit: Bolt is OP. Friend has it. it one hits me and almost 1 hits a lvl 50 pally. Way too powerful of a spell.
 

Doogler

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Mar 6, 2011
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Im satisfied with Rangers how they are, I'm loving my effective arrows. However, since theres 140+ people on our server at times, we are back to where we were at the start of the new map when it comes to lag. This makes it impossible, once again, to shoot arrows accurately.
 

Dielan9999

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I don't think bolt is OP. It's only good in 1v1 then the wizard is a sitting duck. And if you're a Dreadknight, and your buddy gets bolted, that wizard is done for. They don't need any nerf at all. It's some of the other caster classes, they need more appealing skills so we don't have a million wizards on the server :p
 

kriskills

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is there even a cooldown on bolt? my friend can use it over and over. My necromancer friend battery's him and then he just uses it again quickly. It 1 hits me, and no skill should 1 hit some lvl 50 spec'd
 

kriskills

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They can blink away. Doesnt change the fact that it should be one attack that can kill me when im a lvl 50 spec. Should take more skill than that. You see the OP classes by the number of people in it. Pallys and wizards are growing fast!
 
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Mar 28, 2011
I agree completely with Kriskills. Soulfire is ridiculous and bolt is ridiculous. Our paladin friend owns everyone because he has the best of everything! Best armor, heals, and best dmg by far. They are way to crazy powerful. Take off the initial dmg and maybe just leave the burning. The % chance of it working is so high where as moves like black jack is so low and so much worse.

Bolt is OP and if you don't think so you haven't ever been in a group of x amount of people and a single mage killed you all with one ability. People say that you shouldn't be so close together and stuff like that, but an ability that takes one shot to kill an infinite amount of people .

My friend just mastered wizard and he just started using bolt and he says its OP. being able to obliterate anyone so easily isn't fair. I dont understand how its lasted this long.

Or add an amazing silencing ability for a ton of specs
 

kriskills

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We dont even try to do anything now. We protect our wizard and have him use root, then bolt. then they are stuck in the fire to burn to death. Bolt is def OP. It makes pvp way too easy for wizards, and makes all of them "master pvp'ers" with just one skill. The after fire of bolt does 40 damage if you run through it and dont have water around.
 

Elmeerkat

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Mar 16, 2011
not to get off topic but i agree with you on dragoon, it is quite balanced with a specific area that it is good at and i hope that all classes can become this balanced.
 
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