Parsalin
Iron
- Joined
- May 10, 2014
Hello, so id like to talk about pyromancer and my experience with him.
First lets talk about his ability list,
He starts out with ChaosOrb which is a dmging super short range teleport. Which is a nifty skill but mages shouldnt really be in melee anyway so from level one your pushing higher armor and health instead of intellegence just so you can pve.
Then you get maim which is going to be the skill you use the absolute most for the rest of your levels, its nice but when i basic attack for 50 at best the maim will do 60 comfaring this to a rangers 100 basic attack makes it intensly lower dps
youll get some utility like cauterize and fireshield which are nice but super specific to a situation and rarely if ever used. I use my fire shield when i fall in lava thats about the only time its useful.
dragons breath is your first fake aoe. fake because it doesnt go through walls like most of the other clases. my 20 by 20 wide house doesnt protect me from three people around it bouncing me around with their aoes so its a lame one plus its 14 sec coold down makes it fairly useless concidering it can be dodged and interrupted. dmg is way to low with on 60 dmg
darkbolt sounds nice but with a 20 second cool down its useless most people arent being healed and the 50 + dmg is silly it is however you only real aoe goes though walls very short range though. oh and the dot afterwards is not about doing dmg just shows you they still have reduced healing so ignore the 1 dmg tick.
darkblade is crap youll never use it. theres no situation where 70 mana is going to matter to most classes and the damage is less then maim and by this point less then your basic attack. it needing line of sight like maim makes it fare to underpowered to be a 35 lvl ability.
curse is nice in theory but most people are doing so much damage so fast that its useless and will likly be a key bind that you forget to use.
caoticstrength is literally when it became obvious the developers of this class are out right telling you you chose the wrong mage. It gives you 15 more strength which is about 8 more dmg per swing. but lowers your intellect by 25. Its like them outright telling you, we know your not a mage and in fact a terrible melee so heres a buff to prove it.
you get enderpearls but pearls are going to be so expensive and you die so much as a pyro youll never use them.
im lvl 54, im going to master this class out of spite at this point. so now it comes down to great combustion and doom wave if these two abilitys arent so overwhelmingly op that they make the whole class doable then this class should just be deleted. great combustion has a 40 sec cooldown a reagent cause and a stun if that stun ends up being effective maybe their is hope but comparing the 120+ dmg to a similarly leveled rangers 200 basic attack makes it obvious im dont a mage im a crappy melee still.
Doomwave is why i took the class, i felt being able to teleport so much would be awesome, pearls, free pearls, and doom wave id be tping all over the battle field. Problem is nearly everyone has a silence, anyone pvping has mods to track your name tag in a grossly obvious way. so just being able to tp about is fairly useless. add to this that their is a limit to how much dmg you can do to somone at one time just means that spraying 20 pearls at somone is only going to do one 120+ dmg to them
Now that skills are out of the way lets talk about some lore for a moment...
Hes called pyro, but the only things that even sort of make that so is that pearls are on fire and you have some fireworks effects that look like flame mostly you do dark dmg and melee, you nearly never light people on fire you just do fire dmg some times.
He shouldnt even be called pyro maybe void bruiser would suit his skills as a title. at least you would know not to put anything into intellect like i did.
Now that ive ranted about this crap class ill give some suggestions...
I think you should dump all the teleports and dark spells and make the pryo a pyro. maybe give me one blink that explodes when i arrive in an aoe.
give me an aoe that lights the ground on fire temporarily ,
give me a passive immunity to fire ((maybe not lava)),
give me a dot that lights them on fire similar duration of burn to lava,
let me burn pot buffs off them ((for more dmg per buff))
and let me reup that burn dot before it goes out.
and finally let me do more damage to people on fire.
make it so if somone is fighting a pyro they need a fire prot armor then want a fire prot pot. even if they have the fire prots let my melee dmg do more dmg to any one on fire and be just melee dmg.
as it is pyro is underpowered, and victimized.
I will switch off it right after i cast doomwave on a skelle cause it wont do what i want and that is hit all 20 or so pearls on one target.
Honestly who ever it was who came up with this class hates mages and loves rouges because as a pyro is not dps, hes not a tank, hes not a healer, hes not an assasin, hes not a securer, hes just a victim with a silly cheap nerfed tp. he has no place in pvp and is just a loot mule for anyone who can afford a track.
Final note, if the last two abilitys make this class op then ill come amend my post. Feel free to flame, discuss, argue, suggest, i think getting more comments on this would be helpful.
First lets talk about his ability list,
He starts out with ChaosOrb which is a dmging super short range teleport. Which is a nifty skill but mages shouldnt really be in melee anyway so from level one your pushing higher armor and health instead of intellegence just so you can pve.
Then you get maim which is going to be the skill you use the absolute most for the rest of your levels, its nice but when i basic attack for 50 at best the maim will do 60 comfaring this to a rangers 100 basic attack makes it intensly lower dps
youll get some utility like cauterize and fireshield which are nice but super specific to a situation and rarely if ever used. I use my fire shield when i fall in lava thats about the only time its useful.
dragons breath is your first fake aoe. fake because it doesnt go through walls like most of the other clases. my 20 by 20 wide house doesnt protect me from three people around it bouncing me around with their aoes so its a lame one plus its 14 sec coold down makes it fairly useless concidering it can be dodged and interrupted. dmg is way to low with on 60 dmg
darkbolt sounds nice but with a 20 second cool down its useless most people arent being healed and the 50 + dmg is silly it is however you only real aoe goes though walls very short range though. oh and the dot afterwards is not about doing dmg just shows you they still have reduced healing so ignore the 1 dmg tick.
darkblade is crap youll never use it. theres no situation where 70 mana is going to matter to most classes and the damage is less then maim and by this point less then your basic attack. it needing line of sight like maim makes it fare to underpowered to be a 35 lvl ability.
curse is nice in theory but most people are doing so much damage so fast that its useless and will likly be a key bind that you forget to use.
caoticstrength is literally when it became obvious the developers of this class are out right telling you you chose the wrong mage. It gives you 15 more strength which is about 8 more dmg per swing. but lowers your intellect by 25. Its like them outright telling you, we know your not a mage and in fact a terrible melee so heres a buff to prove it.
you get enderpearls but pearls are going to be so expensive and you die so much as a pyro youll never use them.
im lvl 54, im going to master this class out of spite at this point. so now it comes down to great combustion and doom wave if these two abilitys arent so overwhelmingly op that they make the whole class doable then this class should just be deleted. great combustion has a 40 sec cooldown a reagent cause and a stun if that stun ends up being effective maybe their is hope but comparing the 120+ dmg to a similarly leveled rangers 200 basic attack makes it obvious im dont a mage im a crappy melee still.
Doomwave is why i took the class, i felt being able to teleport so much would be awesome, pearls, free pearls, and doom wave id be tping all over the battle field. Problem is nearly everyone has a silence, anyone pvping has mods to track your name tag in a grossly obvious way. so just being able to tp about is fairly useless. add to this that their is a limit to how much dmg you can do to somone at one time just means that spraying 20 pearls at somone is only going to do one 120+ dmg to them
Now that skills are out of the way lets talk about some lore for a moment...
Hes called pyro, but the only things that even sort of make that so is that pearls are on fire and you have some fireworks effects that look like flame mostly you do dark dmg and melee, you nearly never light people on fire you just do fire dmg some times.
He shouldnt even be called pyro maybe void bruiser would suit his skills as a title. at least you would know not to put anything into intellect like i did.
Now that ive ranted about this crap class ill give some suggestions...
I think you should dump all the teleports and dark spells and make the pryo a pyro. maybe give me one blink that explodes when i arrive in an aoe.
give me an aoe that lights the ground on fire temporarily ,
give me a passive immunity to fire ((maybe not lava)),
give me a dot that lights them on fire similar duration of burn to lava,
let me burn pot buffs off them ((for more dmg per buff))
and let me reup that burn dot before it goes out.
and finally let me do more damage to people on fire.
make it so if somone is fighting a pyro they need a fire prot armor then want a fire prot pot. even if they have the fire prots let my melee dmg do more dmg to any one on fire and be just melee dmg.
as it is pyro is underpowered, and victimized.
I will switch off it right after i cast doomwave on a skelle cause it wont do what i want and that is hit all 20 or so pearls on one target.
Honestly who ever it was who came up with this class hates mages and loves rouges because as a pyro is not dps, hes not a tank, hes not a healer, hes not an assasin, hes not a securer, hes just a victim with a silly cheap nerfed tp. he has no place in pvp and is just a loot mule for anyone who can afford a track.
Final note, if the last two abilitys make this class op then ill come amend my post. Feel free to flame, discuss, argue, suggest, i think getting more comments on this would be helpful.
) and I feel like you probably don't get a good chance to use the skills before you get wrecked. Or maybe you just need some more practice landing the stun, because the stun is pretty much a game ender for most classes. Lastly, Pyro is most certainly not the worst class. I don't really know of an under powered class; Herocraft mostly just contains overpowered ones. Also, I'd recommend you go on the test server [test.hc.to] to practice using skills and maybe get a better attribute setup. Use this forum page as a guideline for a better attribute setup: 
