Suggestion Punch II Bows

[JupiterRome]

At the moment Punch II bows are very strong, a good ranger can be practically untouchable with them, I think they should be nerfed or taken out/limited to punch I

 

[Moralsk]

I don't think it's possible to nerf an enchantment without modding the client, could be wrong though.

I'd say limit them to Punch I.

 

[Evanist]

Yes, punch 2 is overpowered. Ever fought a ranger that spam arrows with punch 2? It is a disciples or any melee classes worst nightmare.

Keep it at punch 1 would be better cause right now it is too much

 

[devotedworker]

I mean Archers are very limited already, it seems illogical to make them ever more a weaker class XD


( Edit ) Someone did the Logic math and it looks like Rangers are Overpowerred so I change my opinion T_T )

 

[mikehk]

impossible to nerf an enchantment, and it'd be silly to remove them entirely as all classes SHOULD have some enchant on their weps to benefit them (im sorry all axe/shovel/miscweps users currently). it'd also be silly to keep the insane punch 2. punch 1 however, is the best of both worlds and should be kept. punch 2 can be removed from enchanters in their config, and I highly support removing punch 2 enchants, while keeping punch 1.

 

[Connor12444]

Punch II bows are a part of the game. Some classes have skills to get around the ranger's bow easily. Runeblade for example has blink. Skills like Accelerando also help doge the arrows.

The only way to nerf the enchantment is to nerf the enchanter profession, and that certainly doesn't need a nerf/

 

[JupiterRome]

Thanks! I didn't know that u cant change a enchantment just going out on a limb XD

and @Connor12444 saying its part of the game is just stupid, this isn't normal mc this is herocraft! That's like saying its not cheap to dump lava on you when I have half a heart.

 

[Connor12444]

Lol oke. But I still think Punch II isn't OP because of Blink and Accelerando.

 

[devotedworker]

T_T Think of it this way, archers can only hit you every 2 seconds, and you can hit 3 times per second for the same damage, punch kinda evens out the playing field a tad.

 

[malikdanab]

T_T Think of it this way, archers can only hit you every 2 seconds, and you can hit 3 times per second for the same damage, punch kinda evens out the playing field a tad.

The inner mathematician in me just died a little. It takes 1.2 seconds to draw a bow fully. The max you can hit someone with ANY vanilla damage is every 0.5 seconds. Secondly, The base damage for say ninja is 58. The base damage of a fully drawn ranger arrow is around 160. If you do the math:

DPS of Bow: 160/1.2=133
DPS of Sword: 58/0.5=116

 

[devotedworker]

The inner mathematician in me just died a little. It takes 1.2 seconds to draw a bow fully. The max you can hit someone with ANY vanilla damage is every 0.5 seconds. Secondly, The base damage for say ninja is 58. The base damage of a fully drawn ranger arrow is around 160. If you do the math:

DPS of Bow: 160/1.2=133
DPS of Sword: 58/0.5=116

Point taken, XD Ok Ill call this class op

 

[Trazil]

you don't even need to full draw the bow back, and you still get a big knockback effect

 

[AdamForte649]

Lol oke. But I still think Punch II isn't OP because of Blink and Accelerando.

Acell cancels out when you get hit by anything

 

[Connor12444]

So? Acell makes it harder to get hit by arrows. All it needs to do is let you get in close.

 

[malikdanab]

So? Acell makes it harder to get hit by arrows. All it needs to do is let you get in close.

Then you get hit once and fly across the battlefield.

 

[JupiterRome]

Accel dunt do any against explosive shot or aimed shot! Not every class has a mobility skill to make punch II bows not op

 

[Dsawemd]

Custom items (bow of andromeda) should retain the potential to have Punch II, much like they can have Fire Aspect.

Otherwise, I support in-game Punch 1 only.

 

[Connor12444]

Oke, I see you're point. You win. Punch II does suck, but there isn't a way to nerf it without disabling enchanting. I would kill myself if that happened.

 

[JupiterRome]

@Kainzo this thread has seen some positive response, so I think it might be ok to tag u at this time

 

[Jrr_]

There are very few rangers that will hit every shot on you, that would keep you from touching them. I think it is fine.