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Suggestion Please rework Defiler's Endless Nightmare Spell

Yavool

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Spokane, WA
Up until recently, the wiki had the Tier 2 Necromancer's (Defiler) "ultimate" spell as a damage over time/heal over time spell. Recently, it was changed to "spend 200 mana, deal 10+.1 damage per intellect per second for five seconds, knocking the target up."

This spell has little worth and I am requesting that it be reworked to fit better within a Necromancer's kit. The damage over time/heal over time was functional, as it mixed decay and drain soul together; this one is both extremely expensive for minimal damage: a Defiler with 40 intellect is going to do about 250 damage over five seconds for a cost of 200 mana; by contrast, a single bonespear will deal 450 damage for 130 mana for up to 20 blocks...that is, dealing 450 to *every* target in a 20 block line.

As an "ultimate" spell, this spell pales in comparison's to a Necro's L1 spell... please revert back to the DOT/HOT combo, consider it being AOE, or incorporate something more "ultimatey" for Defiler's end spell.

Thank you,

-yav
 

thewhizkids

Glowstone
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Feb 1, 2014
the wiki does not realy say this, but the skill also gives the target slowness and blindness for 5 seconds. and i think those debuffs is its real strenght. not the damage.
 

Trazil

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Mar 31, 2013
I have used it, but only in PVE. The debuffs you speak of are neither on the wiki nor the /skills description, so I had no idea.
You kinda need to use things in PVP as that is the primary source for class balance.
 

0xNaomi

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Retired Staff
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Feb 22, 2013
EndlessNightmare isn't the Defiler skill anymore, it's a variant called Nightmare.
In comparison, it's a slight DoT instead of flat damage and has less CC (because Endless is kinda crazy).
 

Kainzo

The Disposable Hero
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Class balance needs to reside in both PVE and PVP.

In either case, I think the damage on it alone could be increased slightly as it received a huge nerf, from 300 dmg (mistakenly) to 81.
 

Yavool

Legacy Supporter 9
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Location
Spokane, WA
Class balance needs to reside in both PVE and PVP.

In either case, I think the damage on it alone could be increased slightly as it received a huge nerf, from 300 dmg (mistakenly) to 81.

Fair enough; what needs to be done to make this happen? Thanks. :)
 
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