Non player damage

[draconis99]

When I think "hardcore server", I think a dangerous place where groups band together to survive. This server is doing great to give that feel in combat against monsters and other players, however I find it very lacking in the trap department. I just tested dispenser shot arrow damage on the 1.6.4 test server and after a good 5 arrows, I didn't even lower in half a heart of health. Traps should be a fundamental part of herocraft. There are tripwires, dispensers, and redstone for a reason. I think upping the damage of dispensed arrows, fire charges, and anything else shot out of dispensers at players should do at least 50-60 damage MINIMUM. I would average the damage of them out to 80-100 personally. Castles and bandit bases were most feared for their traps and advantage points, not the soldiers within them.

 

[leftovers5]

When I think "hardcore server", I think a dangerous place where groups band together to survive. This server is doing great to give that feel in combat against monsters and other players, however I find it very lacking in the trap department. I just tested dispenser shot arrow damage on the 1.6.4 test server and after a good 5 arrows, I didn't even lower in half a heart of health. Traps should be a fundamental part of herocraft. There are tripwires, dispensers, and redstone for a reason. I think upping the damage of dispensed arrows, fire charges, and anything else shot out of dispensers at players should do at least 50-60 damage MINIMUM. I would average the damage of them out to 80-100 personally. Castles and bandit bases were most feared for their traps and advantage points, not the soldiers within them.

Cool idea. Especially pertinent in terms of town defenses. Currently the stuff you mentioned basically are useless against an enemy because they don't do solid damage. If this is added I could definitely see Engineers getting some more love.

 

[Xargun]

Cool idea. Especially pertinent in terms of town defenses. Currently the stuff you mentioned basically are useless against an enemy because they don't do solid damage. If this is added I could definitely see Engineers getting some more love.

They should combine Engineer and Mason together - neither one is that great by themselves, but together they are useful.

 

[Vongard]

They should combine Engineer and Mason together - neither one is that great by themselves, but together they are useful.

yes. this. now.

 

[Dielan9999]

Perhaps we can use worldguard regions to flag for increasing damage from projectiles not fired by players? That way towns with regions, spawn, dungeons, and whatever the architect team builds in between could have deadly arrow traps.

EDIT: I'm not 100% on what is possible with worldguard.

 

[Kainzo]

They should combine Engineer and Mason together - neither one is that great by themselves, but together they are useful.

How can you say Engineer isnt a great stand-alone class? do you even know how to engineer?

Granted, not opposed to combining them though

 

[leftovers5]

How can you say Engineer isnt a great stand-alone class? do you even know how to engineer?

Mason is not as standalone, though.

 

[lioIIoil]

Arrows should do something like 300 damage. It would make arrow to traps scary and fun. 300 damage would be enough to barely run away but enough to be dangerous.

 

[Dielan9999]

How can you say Engineer isnt a great stand-alone class? do you even know how to engineer?

Engineer might stand on it's own, but without help from an engineer the stuff Masons can do gets kinda kicked in the nuts.

 

[Dreamcycler]

Buff cactus 2013

 

[lioIIoil]

Buff cactus 2013

I afk on top of a cactus.

 

[Xargun]

How can you say Engineer isnt a great stand-alone class? do you even know how to engineer?

Granted, not opposed to combining them though

My degree is in Engineering But to be honest I know very little about redstone, but Mason sucks. Once you get lifts they are useless - as you need Engineering to make cool stuff. Just figured if you combine the two they completement each other very well and Mason really isn't a stand alone class.

 

[Egorh]

I wouldn't mind seeing very powerful arrow traps/other stuff in the adventure map. In my opinion it would work on the main world with some restrictions/exceptions

 

[j2gay]

Redstone traps = laggg otherwise a good idea

 

[Archestro]

I love being an engineer and I like masons depending on me

 

[Jack_Reacher]

This server is doing great [...] however I find it very lacking in the trap department.

@STDs4YouAnd4Me

 

[MajorasMask]

They should combine Engineer and Mason together - neither one is that great by themselves, but together they are useful.

Nay.

Engineers and masons both have a lot of skills, so combining them would make the result profession overpowered. Unless you remove skills, but which ones? Pistons, redstone repeaters and ICs are all important for an engineer, and lifts, gates, bridges and doors are all important for masons.

Engineers are the best for traps. Pistons can be used for pit/arrow traps. Bridges/doors, which masons have, if combined with the skills of an engineer, only make the situation ''cleaner''. However without player detection ICs, a mason's skills alone are pretty much useless for making traps (unless they are used manually).

I view masons as builders and engineers as, well, engineers..

 

[Jack_Reacher]

MAJORAS - change your avatar back to those nice trees

 

[Xargun]

Nay.

Engineers and masons both have a lot of skills, so combining them would make the result profession overpowered. Unless you remove skills, but which ones? Pistons, redstone repeaters and ICs are all important for an engineer, and lifts, gates, bridges and doors are all important for masons.

Engineers are the best for traps. Pistons can be used for pit/arrow traps. Bridges/doors, which masons have, if combined with the skills of an engineer, only make the situation ''cleaner''. However without player detection ICs, a mason's skills alone are pretty much useless for making traps (unless they are used manually).

I view masons as builders and engineers as, well, engineers..

Lots of skills ? Are you crazy ? Masons can make lifts, bridges, gates and hidden doors / switches. I wouldn't call that a lot of skills. And even if they had 100 skills like Engineers they don't compare to some like a Miner, or Farmer, Smith, etc... for making money or usefulness. Once your town has lifts how often are you looking for an Engineer or Mason ? Never - but you always need a Farmer, Smith, etc... Just trying to balance out the professions so its not a chore to find a Mason to make some lifts. You can always find Smiths, Farmers, Miners and such online, but Mason and Engineers are fairly rare.

 

[Fjordsen]

MAJORAS - change your avatar back to those nice trees

I think this is important enough to deserve its own thread We're tired of your ugly avatar Majoras!