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Just me bitching, that's all...

TheTXLibra

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Mar 5, 2011
Location
Somewhere, TX
This is in no way a slight against the Heroes system or any of the staff. Heroes is a fantastic game and plugin, and the staff is phenomenal. This is just me bitching about PVP in general.

For those of you whom have known me for a couple of years now, and remember my old works, those were created back when donors could region off an area, set no-pvp, and set build permissions, and mob spawns. In short, you could create a little pocket where there were no distractions other than real life, to stop you from building great things, provided you were safely in your region.

Gwenmarie Island, Zeal (aka The Bazaar), Creeper Cathedral, Sanctum, the Moon Temple, the Arena Stairs, and all the other large-scale works I either created or assisted in creating, were created in a small pocket where I could neither be PVPd nor have others grief my work by building over it (unless they were on the building team, of course).

I'll be honest: out there, in the brutal world of ninjas and lasers and shit, I can't cut it. I'm not a PVPer. I never will be. I lack that asshole instinct that tells me "Hey, you know what would be really fun? Killing the shit out of some other player, looting their corpse, and then killing them when again when they come back to try and resume what they were doing."

It's just not me. I'm a builder. I do one thing well: I build pretty things.

Or at least I try to, but people far better at killing than I, pretty much put the kibosh on that on an hourly basis nowadays, and it makes me wonder, yet again, why I keep coming back for the punishment... it's because y'all are my friends (well, those of you who don't keep killing me, at least). Anyway, I'm going to try and make it work. Maybe today was just a bad day, but when game time is so precious and I'm having to spend half of it either running back from the graveyard or re-upping my inventory due to getting looted, it'll eventually become time to find some other map or game.

Either that, or I can just give up on Architecture and focus entirely on learning how to PVP people really well, and learn to take delight in ruining their work as well, but like I said, I lack that asshole instinct, and not sure I care to gain it. I'll give it awhile and see... I truly hate quitting. As much as I really love this server, my old friends, the staff, and our history together, it seems like every new round just means I'm less and less able to build anything worthwhile anymore, because of getting killed.

And before all the troll replies of "LTP or GTFO" or "STFU bitching" come back, I acknowledge that I'm just bitching about how much I suck so bad at one half of the game that I'm incapable of being able to do decently at the other half. And it's that other half, architecture, that means the world to me. So there, I saved you the trouble of having to post those kinds of replies. I'm just bitching, and no, I don't, apparently, know how to play the PVP aspect.
 

Northac

Obsidian
Joined
Jul 31, 2012
I feel you on this, i am not the greatest at pvp and prefer to be alone so i can build my base/home. Ive been cleaned out a few times, havent been killed yet tho. I can help you find a nice secluded area to build if you'd like, I ssem to be fairly decent at doing that. It would be better than you quiting or leaveing the map. Besides, i didnt get to see the old stuff you built and id like to :)
 

Davros_

Web Developer
Legacy Supporter 9
Joined
May 20, 2012
Location
Earth
People who are killing you are doing a disservice to the entire community. I've seen your work and to call you extremely talented would be an understatement. I think if you find a strong town that is capable of protecting you, it would be your best option. Herocraft would hate to lose you!
 

TheTXLibra

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Mar 5, 2011
Location
Somewhere, TX
That's very kind of you to say. Maybe the problem is indeed just that I need to find a larger town with better protection. Ours only ever seems to have about 3-4 people on at any given time.
 

kevinlive

Legacy Supporter 2
Joined
Jul 10, 2011
Location
Norway, Vardø
That's very kind of you to say. Maybe the problem is indeed just that I need to find a larger town with better protection. Ours only ever seems to have about 3-4 people on at any given time.
If you're looking for an active town, where you can build, hook me up.
We're building a viking theme town called Verstad, and tbh, we need more people with building experience. I guess we could quarry up the whole kingdom to come and guard you if needed :)

Also, I could suggest that you spec into either dragoon or paladin, thus you can run away/escape if someone is trying to kill you. But of course, this is your choice. :)

I hope to hear from you,
kev.
 

TheTXLibra

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Mar 5, 2011
Location
Somewhere, TX
I am like... level 8 warrior atm... I was thinking of going Samurai because, as a coward, I love to use bows in the normal game, and also liked the higher sword damage. I think, though, in retrospect, considering the hell of a time I've had lately, if I EVER manage to make it to level 30 warrior, I'll probably go Paladin instead. Even though armor for some reason is no help against even a Level 1 fireball.
 

Northac

Obsidian
Joined
Jul 31, 2012
I am like... level 8 warrior atm... I was thinking of going Samurai because, as a coward, I love to use bows in the normal game, and also liked the higher sword damage. I think, though, in retrospect, considering the hell of a time I've had lately, if I EVER manage to make it to level 30 warrior, I'll probably go Paladin instead. Even though armor for some reason is no help against even a Level 1 fireball.
has to do with the fact thar casters are sqiushy ( i am one, i know). and more to the topic of this post i had an incident after my first post that puts me much in the same boat
my place was broken into, they didnt replace the blocks and they took all my tourches i had set up, i got creeper bombed in my own home because of that and had to fix my place. i know its not exactly the same as being killed constantly but these actions do fit the people who keep messing with you.
Oh, and if you'd like a caster(not spec'd atm) for a town / group project, i am willing to help out.
 

Howdanrocks

Legacy Supporter 4
Joined
Feb 3, 2011
I'll be more than happy to protect you while you build. Send me a PM on the forums or ingame if you are interested.
 

TheTXLibra

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Mar 5, 2011
Location
Somewhere, TX
Y'all rock so hard, there are no words. Thank you. I honestly expected to get a lot of "don't let the door hit you..." responses, but all the support has only reinforced what I love most about HC... the players.

As a fix, I've joined Verstad, which has a larger member base = more protection usually. I'm also likely going to devote a lot of time to @weynard special Eden project on the other port. Fun will be had! And it's because of the players.

I love you guys. In a manly way.
 

Sidgil

Legacy Supporter 3
Joined
Jul 30, 2011
Location
Washington, USA
Well, I plan to become a pvper hunter, so tell me when you are being bothered and I will dash on over and help. I lack the asshole instict to attack random people as well, but I do have the asshole to dash off and take oen for the team....er wait, thats not what I meant :p
 

Fo0l3d

Glowstone
Joined
Mar 18, 2012
Hey, I'm Fo0l3d, and if we ever met, we'd make GREAT friends.

On topic: No 'work' is truly ruined by PvPing. You have people around to protect you, use that to your advantage. If you can't trust that with them, you're with the wrong people.
 

strongholdx

Moderator
Legacy Supporter 6
Joined
Mar 4, 2011
Location
Earth
@TheTXLibra you are a god among kings, This post is my exact view of Herocraft at the moment. I have no reason to log on if I can't get anything done. If you ever need a person to help you with building beautiful things, I'm your man.

Stay classy good sir,
-S
 

malmenca

Diamond
Joined
Apr 25, 2011
I am like... level 8 warrior atm... I was thinking of going Samurai because, as a coward, I love to use bows in the normal game, and also liked the higher sword damage. I think, though, in retrospect, considering the hell of a time I've had lately, if I EVER manage to make it to level 30 warrior, I'll probably go Paladin instead. Even though armor for some reason is no help against even a Level 1 fireball.

Dungeon of doom or whatever the fucking DoD is will work wonders for you.
 

Kainzo

The Disposable Hero
Staff member
Founder
Adventure Team
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Location
The 7th Circle of Heaven
Y'all rock so hard, there are no words. Thank you. I honestly expected to get a lot of "don't let the door hit you..." responses, but all the support has only reinforced what I love most about HC... the players.

As a fix, I've joined Verstad, which has a larger member base = more protection usually. I'm also likely going to devote a lot of time to @weynard special Eden project on the other port. Fun will be had! And it's because of the players.

I love you guys. In a manly way.
I dont want to lose marvelous builders. Herocraft is more than about PVP or PVE - its about the community. The company we keep, etc.

I remember when Herocraft didn't even have PVP as an option (BECAUSE IT DIDNT EXIST) .... those times... were so much more simpler.
 

WoleverEntun

Legacy Supporter 3
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Location
Korea
I've been a terrible PvPer for 2 1/2 maps now, I understand how you feel when this happens. It almost never happened to me in Sanctum or Zeal, but much more so in DG.
 

strongholdx

Moderator
Legacy Supporter 6
Joined
Mar 4, 2011
Location
Earth
I've been a terrible PvPer for 2 1/2 maps now, I understand how you feel when this happens. It almost never happened to me in Sanctum or Zeal, but much more so in DG.
This is because the implementation of Heores. In Sanctum and Zeal, most fighting was in wars, caused by server politics, now days fighting is done because you need to level up and its a part of life. Personally I preferred politics
 
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