Suggestion Beguiler Skill

[Leo2596]

Well I think that fauxbomb should be replaced with this. Plague bomb that does no damage, but a random status effect (wither,slow,nausea,poison, etc) and a 15% chance of it putting 2 status effects on the player. Since the beguiler is a trickster I feel as this would make sense.

 

[dingytoothpaste]

Perhaps keep Faux but replace something like fireball with a nerfed version of this idea?

 

[Leo2596]

Perhaps keep Faux but replace something like fireball with a nerfed version of this idea?

If you were to remove fireball you would lose 1 of your 3 damage skills.

 

[dingytoothpaste]

I guess there's a minimum amount of dps the Beguiler has to maintain before lore takes priority

 

[Dsawemd]

Well I think that fauxbomb should be replaced with this. Plague bomb that does no damage, but a random status effect (wither,slow,nausea,poison, etc) and a 15% chance of it putting 2 status effects on the player. Since the beguiler is a trickster I feel as this would make sense.

The logic behind Fauxbomb (I invented/suggested it, and Kainzo liked it but added a mana cost, and everyone since has disliked it):

• Beguiler is Tricky.

• Beguiler's main Damage is a Nuke that looks like a Sheep.

• Fauxbomb looks like the Nuke Sheep but is actually just Tricky.

Here is why I fucked up/Fauxbomb is no longer used:

• The Nuke Sheep rarely gives enemies time to consider whether taking Nuke Sheep damage is worth it.

• Since Players are used to Plaguebomb being used in a way so that it will almost immediately explode, they faceroll over Fauxbomb's NukeSheep without getting scared by it.

• Fauxbomb costs mana.

On-Topic:
RNG CC on Beguiler is a good idea, but should be separate from Fauxbomb/Plaguebomb. We do not want a class that throws tons of sheep, we want a Control-Support Mage. Make this skill activate either a standard way (mouse-over or projectile) or by a unique way (ie: not a sheep).

 

[Leo2596]

The logic behind Fauxbomb (I invented/suggested it, and Kainzo liked it but added a mana cost, and everyone since has disliked it):

• Beguiler is Tricky.

• Beguiler's main Damage is a Nuke that looks like a Sheep.

• Fauxbomb looks like the Nuke Sheep but is actually just Tricky.

Here is why I fucked up/Fauxbomb is no longer used:

• The Nuke Sheep rarely gives enemies time to consider whether taking Nuke Sheep damage is worth it.

• Since Players are used to Plaguebomb being used in a way so that it will almost immediately explode, they faceroll over Fauxbomb's NukeSheep without getting scared by it.

• Fauxbomb costs mana.

On-Topic:
RNG CC on Beguiler is a good idea, but should be separate from Fauxbomb/Plaguebomb. We do not want a class that throws tons of sheep, we want a Control-Support Mage. Make this skill activate either a standard way (mouse-over or projectile) or by a unique way (ie: not a sheep).

It does not have to be a sheep projectile

 

[HeroGuy426]

Every class should get tons of sheep projectiles.

 

[Trazil]

what about a cow?

 

[Ultanian]

IMO the best way to change plaguebomb to be more tricky is for the sheep to explode on timer only, not damage. That way, an enemy facing a beguiler has to actually think more while fighting:
-Determine if it's FauxBomb
-Kill the sheep before detonation
-Avoid the sheep, but gives a chance for beguiler to kite

Also, as part of a last minute thought, a beguiler could use quantum leap to get the enemy actually close enough to the bomb, so there's some more strategy involved

 

[lioIIoil]

IMO the best way to change plaguebomb to be more tricky is for the sheep to explode on timer only, not damage. That way, an enemy facing a beguiler has to actually think more while fighting:
-Determine if it's FauxBomb
-Kill the sheep before detonation
-Avoid the sheep, but gives a chance for beguiler to kite

Also, as part of a last minute thought, a beguiler could use quantum leap to get the enemy actually close enough to the bomb, so there's some more strategy involved

It would need to have the detonation timer lowered because this would be easy to dodge.