Arena's

[barbas0l]

Has there been any word or talk of bringing back arenas, and if so is there any kind of time frame?

 

[Kainzo]

Has there been any word or talk of bringing back arena's, and if so is there any kind of time frame?

No time frame atm, the plugin we used for Arenas is having large issues with Heroes integration so we're putting it on a back burner - you may see it coming in for test soon though.

 

[Jack_Reacher]

In almost every case, adding an apostrophe before an 's' makes the word possessive, not plural.

 

[Aerokii]

I'm still not sold on bringing Arenas back. Felt like it pulled too much life out of the regular map in Bastion, not unlike Mob Arenas.

Edit for wrong word.

 

[Jack_Reacher]

I'm still not sold on bringing Arenas back. Felt like it pulled too much life out of the regular map in Bastion, not like Mob Arenas.

I feel the same way about the incoming PvE map...

 

[Aerokii]

I feel the same way about the incoming PvE map...

Honestly? So do I. I'm hopeful the risk/reward will balance enough that it doesn't impact Haven TOO much.

 

[XenZan]

Personally, I liked the arenas as they allowed players to practice PVP without all the drawbacks and with no real gain either. I think practice is key.

 

[Aerokii]

Personally, I liked the arenas as they allowed players to practice PVP without all the drawbacks and with no real gain either. I think practice is key.

Mostly true, though there was a while when you could make fantastic profit from battlefields. I'm not opposed to the entire concept of Arenas, I just don't want that to become all some people do (kind of what duels became for a while there.)

 

[XenZan]

Mostly true, though there was a while when you could make fantastic profit from battlefields. I'm not opposed to the entire concept of Arenas, I just don't want that to become all some people do (kind of what duels became for a while there.)

I mostly agree. I think that if that's ALL someone wanted to do, not my business. But I also feel like many people used it kind of as a training ground. I know I did. Hard to get better when you stand no chance every time. The arena gave you some chance and let you try different things. I liked it.

 

[STDs4YouAnd4Me]

There's a test server for a reason. Arenas killed world PVP last map. I hope it never comes this map. If it does, make it have a 50s entrance fee or a long ass cooldown.

 

[Aerokii]

There's a test server for a reason. Arenas killed world PVP last map. I hope it never comes this map. If it does, make it have a 50s entrance fee or a long ass cooldown.

I'd be ok with a cooldown- especially since as a Paladin I basically was required to take one anyway to let Layhands or invuln to recharge.

EDIT: My concern is with cooldowns is that rather than solve the issue of less world PVP, people will just sit in town and do nothing while waiting for the cooldown to end. I'm hopeful it wouldn't backfire, but that's always a concern.

 

[Haxnn]

I wouldn't mind seeing an arena where you can only queue for at some fancy area in spawn. That way spawn could have more use and people could watch (if the arenas were in spawn and had a glass roof or something).

 

[barbas0l]

I'm just struggling to find solo pvp. The past few world pvp fights I have been in have all resulted in 1v2, 1v3, or more. I'd just like to have the option for a fair 1v1/2v2 or more. I generally don't play with a whole crew of people, and become limited in what I can do world pvp wise. A lot of "world pvp" has become people camping lost souls at spawn exits. Who are we kidding, that isn't world pvp. Most towns have built themselves into aquariums, and can't be raided. So this world PVP becomes more about who brought the greater numbers. I'm just looking for something a bit more competitive, and to where I'm not required to have teammates to be successful.

 

[Dwarfers]

I'm just struggling to find solo pvp. The past few world pvp fights I have been in have all resulted in 1v2, 1v3, or more. I'd just like to have the option for a fair 1v1/2v2 or more. I generally don't play with a whole crew of people, and become limited in what I can do world pvp wise. A lot of "world pvp" has become people camping lost souls at spawn exists. Who are we kidding, that isn't world pvp. Most towns have built themselves into aquariums, and can't be raided. So this world PVP becomes more about who brought the greater numbers. I'm just looking for something a bit more competitive, and to where I'm not required to have teammates to be successful.

I know what you mean, when there is unfair advantage in numbers everyone defends themselves by saying "everyone wants to pvp so they come" which that tells me you don't care about having a fair fight that would bring more fun to both sides since you CAN tell people not to come pvping which nobody seems to ever say to their town mates honestly.

 

[Jack_Reacher]

I'm just struggling to find solo pvp. The past few world pvp fights I have been in have all resulted in 1v2, 1v3, or more. I'd just like to have the option for a fair 1v1/2v2 or more. I generally don't play with a whole crew of people, and become limited in what I can do world pvp wise. A lot of "world pvp" has become people camping lost souls at spawn exits. Who are we kidding, that isn't world pvp. Most towns have built themselves into aquariums, and can't be raided. So this world PVP becomes more about who brought the greater numbers. I'm just looking for something a bit more competitive, and to where I'm not required to have teammates to be successful.

Good point, but I don't want this to destroy what we have left of world PvP.

 

[barbas0l]

Some kind of world PvP objective points/areas could be an interesting idea. Provide some kind of incentive for people to rally their friends and travel there.

 

[Jack_Reacher]

Some kind of world PvP objective points/areas could be an interesting idea. Provide some kind of incentive for people to rally their friends and travel there.

@STDs4YouAnd4Me really beat this drum last map, and put forth a great effort - maybe @Kainzo or @Danda would like to grease the wheels this map?

 

[Aerokii]

@STDs4YouAnd4Me really beat this drum last map, and put forth a great effort - maybe @Kainzo or @Danda would like to grease the wheels this map?

Interestingly enough this has always been one of those ideas thats been kicked around- for those of you who have been around long enough to remember the "Outpost" concept, a resource center that could be fought over and claimed by towns. If you have ideas on how to create something like this, by all means toss it into suggestions! I'd love to see new ideas!

 

[malikdanab]

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With the addition of not losing held item and armor, there really isn't a reason to world pvp. The most you will come out with is a couple regents. If they so happening to be mining, you are just being mean to lower level players who've spent all this time and can't even defend themselves. This may just be my reason, but I pvp because I find it enjoyable and I like the competition. I don't care about what I get or any prestige/ranking. I want to have a fair fight, not camp noobs like some people *Cough*CopyCtrlV*Cough* .

 

[Kainzo]

Honestly? So do I. I'm hopeful the risk/reward will balance enough that it doesn't impact Haven TOO much.

The world is changing. We're planning a massive overhaul of how the systems work and it requires a catalyst.

This catalyst will be Shrine. Will it change Herocraft? yes. Will it push it in the direction it needs to go, YEP.
You can count on Herocraft being around because we have the direction to know when to change, what to change and we're still around because we change.

Not all change is good, but I have good feelings about it