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And to think I thought...

Forim

Stone
Joined
May 27, 2012
Location
Not Herocraft
... that I was in for an exciting time.

I've read A LOT about this server on your own forums and it only made me more and more excited until I just couldn't resist applying. So I did. And I got on first thing this morning to start my new ADVENTURE. Turns out Herocraft's definition of adventure is different than mine.

I understand that Herocraft is a community already well-built and doesn't need new players as much as other servers. It is a very large server that can easily shrug off a player quitting, especially if new. Life will go on as if the player was never there. However, what I experienced is absurd, and what I read about after my experience is far worse.

I asked the people online what the best way to get started was. After a chat, I was directed to.... Warsomething. I went there and began to admire the scenery and architecture. After a good hike down the road in search of unprotected trees to punch (which I was already upset about having to do), I begin to take damage. Upon turning around, I see a player, a flash of lighting, and a game over screen. I think to myself, "Maybe he's a bandit I was supposed to know about?" and respawn to see a message from him reading, "Welcome to Herocraft!" I reply, "Way to go low, there," and later think that it might just be some tradition to absolutely own a noob when he first joins the server.

Irritated, I make my long hike again, this time watching my back every few seconds like someone's out for my head. I find a tree!!!....... but it's antigriefed. Back to the hike. I find a small forest. I punch down a tree and some leaves and replant a sapling. I notice it's getting dark outside, so I craft a wooden pick and head into a nearby cave that someone else had kindly left torches in for me. I dig out a small chunk and craft a stone sword, pick, and axe, and head back outside, feeling pretty well-armed. I find a creeper and beat its face in. Okay, more like poke it and run away until it stops moving. I go back to the road in search of a place to settle to find another creeper. Same story. I'm a level 3 now! YAY. I think to myself, "I'm well on my way to killing that griefer I saw earlier," before encountering a creeper and two spiders. Analyzing the situation, I back up two steps and they are out of sight range to attack me. Then I hear a hiss. After a brief moment of panic and an attempt to run... I'm dead. Again. I think, "Okay... that was my own fault," and respawn.

More irritated that I've now actually lost items AND my level 3 from this experience, I find that I've respawned in a new location. One not so friendly. I'm immediately put up against a skeleton and a spider. At level 2. With no items. I die swiftly and log out of the game.

I check the forums to see what people are up to and discover a post called "I'm disappointed," written by someone who thinks like I do, but whose name did not leave a mark on my memory. I read it to find out some other noob had an experience even worse than mine! Multiple players constantly killing him while another tried desperately to help him.

I then decide to tell my own story.

My advice to you, Herocraft community... Make a more noob-friendly server, unless your goal is to drive away any and all new traffic and stick to the core community. If that's your goal, well done indeed. I know that the theme seems to be fend for yourself. That's the same on my home server. But we give people a chance to make it. Either lower the difficulty a degree, give us a starting set (or just money for that matter), or just MAKE A N00B-ONLY WORLD. Restrict it by level or something, if you can, or have a moderator watch its traffic. I'm currently having more fun on a nearly vanilla server than I am on your very innovative, very well-constructed server.

Until your ways are changed, you have lost my respect, my esteem, and my attendance to your server. And to think I thought I was in for an exciting time.
 

Barnubus

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Jul 18, 2011
Location
California
I understand your frustration, and I agree this server can be a bit harsh towards it's newer players, but your story is no different from anyone elses. Everyone on this server was a noob at one point, we've all managed to stick around and in my opinion Herocraft is worth sticking around for, it's an amazing server.

You were directed to the wrong place, your best bet, hands down, when joining this server is finding a town. Most towns will be happy to take in an intelligent new member. When in game try '/ch re' or check out the Official Townships thread.

Also, you can join '/ch tour' for any questions or help, we have [Guide]s for helping new players, and also plenty of veterans that would love to help. Though we have some members that are eager to kill noobs, we also have some eager to help.
 

Dsawemd

Wiki Team
Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Jun 16, 2011
Just so you are aware, you got trolled into going to "warshard" where the map is smaller, there are no societal rules or norms like being polite or even considering talking to a person you normally would be helping in "Dragongarde" main map before bolting or eviscerating or lava bucketing their face.
Sounds like you ran into a rogue wizard. This server is hardcore, but no one is safe in warshard
 

Forim

Stone
Joined
May 27, 2012
Location
Not Herocraft
Then am I to believe the server consists of trolls? I recall an admin agreeing with the one telling me to go there.
 

Barnubus

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Jul 18, 2011
Location
California
If someone sent you to Warshard, they were thinking you wanted a place to mine, not set up shop and build a home. And I don't mean to question your memory or anything, but I doubt an Admin would send you there, just as Dsaw said, that map is different from the main map, Dragongarde. There are no regions, lwcs, nor are there any griefing rules.
Warshard is not where you should have gone. You should have been directed towards towns.

And the idea that our server is only trolls is a bit harsh, you ran into one bad apple who sent you in the wrong direction, that doesn't mean you need to give up on the whole server.
 

Dsawemd

Wiki Team
Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Jun 16, 2011
Well, warshard also has the most freely available resources like gold, for money. If you can survive the rewards are great. Level your crafting to level ten, join a town, set your recall in your house in that town, go to warshard again, hide, mine, /skill recall. That's a better way to do it.

As to the mobs: health scales as you level. So once you get up there, creepers will still one or two shot you but nothing else will.

If you want something fun and dangerous for different reasons, go back to the main map and at 8pm pacific time tonight, brutal (a scary admin) is hosting an event, where we will team up to fight mobs and the survivors will get some little prize. The real prize is the event tho. Keep your eyes peeled for giants.

If none of that sounds good, pm me in game if you see me on, I'll try to help.

If you listen to one thing in this thread, join a town, and be committed to it, that's how you join this server.
 

Psychokhaos

Legacy Supporter 3
Joined
Jun 5, 2011
Location
Puyallup, WA, USA
If someone sent you to Warshard, they were thinking you wanted a place to mine, not set up shop and build a home.
-snip-
Yeah, I was online when he asked this, and what he asked was a good place to mine.

Alot of people kill mercilessly on this server, and see newer players as free XP and titles, sadly. I just want the community to be friendlier, to noobs and veterans alike.
 

whitemagehealu

Legacy Supporter 7
Joined
Jun 25, 2011
The server might not consist of only trolls but there are quite a few of them and they are the ones that stick in your mind more than the non-trolls.
 

teddytazer

Soulsand
Joined
Jan 12, 2012
Location
Brampton, Ontario
I can't say im good aligned. but I am against the murder/griefing of lowbie players, because u dont get better fighting people weaker/lower level then u.

Also a suggestion perhaps for helping lowbie, maybe once adventure map/pve map is here. move spawn there. that way they can slowly work they way to pvp/hardcore dragongarde.
 

Dsawemd

Wiki Team
Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Jun 16, 2011
This should be only for the account's very first ten levels, to prevent veterans (who may legitimately want to try a new base class) raiding on the no-pvp bus.

Love the change regardless, since it keeps those noobs around to discover how cool skills and HC are.
 

Barnubus

Legacy Supporter 8
Joined
Jul 18, 2011
Location
California
Maybe... limit the areas a low-level can enter? Can't enter regions they aren't a part of, except spawn/herogates/ect
Dsaw is right, you can be lower then level 10 and run around raiding and towns couldn't defend themselves against you.
Well they could light you on fire and shit bust still.
 

Kainzo

The Disposable Hero
Staff member
Founder
Adventure Team
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Location
The 7th Circle of Heaven
This should be only for the account's very first ten levels, to prevent veterans (who may legitimately want to try a new base class) raiding on the no-pvp bus.

Love the change regardless, since it keeps those noobs around to discover how cool skills and HC are.
They would have to do /hero reset in order to gain this effect.
 
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alexhoff1

hell, I'll help a noob or two if they came beggin'.

tbh what I get is... "How do you have so much money?" then before I can reply,
"can I have some?"

if you're a low level player though, come to me! I got items for any unspeced class that you could use :3
 
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