30x30 Darkrooms illegal?

[heylookitskyle]

Recently with the release of MobArena darkrooms have become illegal. I see what the motive is here, trying to move all leveling up to just the arenas. However, there are only two right now. At peak times it is extremely hard to get into them even with spamming a macro.

Darkrooms need to be allowed until the 6 arenas are set up and fully functional. Until then I find it extremely slow to level. Maybe it's my "leveling personality" but when I level I don't screw around. I grind for how ever long it takes to master. I find it slow and boring to walk around, explore, and kill the few mobs you see on the way. Only leveling at night is also extremely slow, sure 1 night = good xp but when day comes are you supposed to waste time till getting some fairly good xp the next night?

All I'm asking is to think about this. Does what you having going on right now make sense?


@Kainzo

 

[kperkins1982]

I think we need to think about why people use dark rooms

they use dark rooms because 130,000 xp is a super slow boring grind

people are going to make them, and get caught eventually, and then just make another unless the admins are very very strict about it, but the root cause of using dark rooms, needs to be thought about

EDIT: I'm not advocating breaking the rules, I'm explaining the thought process behind people that do

 

[applelove]

I don't think dark rooms should have ever been allowed. If the only way for you to enjoy a game is to grind to the highest level, you don't really belong on an MMO or Herocraft.
And I wouldn't say you waste time until the next night, I'd say you play Herocraft until the next night.
#StopSissyGrinding

 

[Sweord]

Yeah, I find I haven't much patience for darkrooms. Someone showed me one that was less than 30x30 and after you kill the 5 mobs in it that's it, unless you feel like waiting for them to spawn. I just go out at night and hunt mobs, sometimes it's a good night and you find lots, or it's not and you find 5. Then I screw around waiting for night to fall again.

Although, I'd be lying if I said I don't look forward to new mob arenas.

 

[Glent]

Can someone link the source to the prohibition of dark rooms? I can't find it.

 

[MajorasMask]

I agree. There should be more than just two ways to level combat classes (currnently only the Arena and spawned MOBS).

Bring back spawners!

 

[applelove]

Bring back spawners with a 10,000% decrease in spawn rates. Make em spawn 8 mobs once every 2 hours.

 

[Greenwindu]

Spawners shouldn't be allowed, but you should get a lot of exp for destroying them.

 

[Shadownub]

I can't really see the issue with darkrooms, although I don't enjoy using them. If they're simple and have the same chance of mobs hitting people/people hitting mobs, you're killing mobs in the dark, which is practically their natural environment. It's practically the slowest method of grinding you could ever think of, and 90% of people in their right mind would just go ahead and grind mobs above ground.

For that matter, if you really want mobs in that way, you can just go into a large cave system near the edge of the map that isn't lit up and rape everything in it until more mobs spawn somewhere in the complex. That isn't illegal. Why should darkrooms be?

 

[skittles32009]

I can't really see the issue with darkrooms, although I don't enjoy using them. If they're simple and have the same chance of mobs hitting people/people hitting mobs, you're killing mobs in the dark, which is practically their natural environment. It's practically the slowest method of grinding you could ever think of, and 90% of people in their right mind would just go ahead and grind mobs above ground.

For that matter, if you really want mobs in that way, you can just go into a large cave system near the edge of the map that isn't lit up and rape everything in it until more mobs spawn somewhere in the complex. That isn't illegal. Why should darkrooms be?

the issue with dark rooms is they draw mobs from the top of the map, meaning that players who wander an area will see absolutely no mobs up top, while at floor 14 there is a big ass darkroom stealing all the mobs from players. atleast thats what i've heard from mods/admins over the weeks

 

[EvilThor]

Where in the rules is it sated that darkrooms are illegal?
I have not seen it, I looked at the rules a couple of days ago and didn't find it?
Post a link?

 

[GreekCrackShot]

Imo darkrooms should be allowed until all mob arenas are in amd deemed balanced. Atm, the only mob arena (imo) that is fairly balanced (at least close) is sewer. The rest, even with an organized group and game plan, i still lose more exp than gain.

If the mob arenas are gonna be extremely tough AND darkrooms are illegal, i might as well give up because of the lack of a way to effeciently level. Mob arena just seems like a tougher way to grind everywhere but sewer. When the arenas were buffed the other day, and pig zombies were on level 1... I admit i went straight to my darkroom, because if there is an easier way to level LEGALLY, im gonna use it. If every way to level is extremely hard and time consuming, im not gonna waste my time.

 

[Angyles]

Could someone please link to where it says they are illegal? All I have heard is people saying they are illegal, but I have not seen an admin come right out and say "They are illegal".

Is it in writing anywhere at all?

 

[Devoshade]

@Angyles i cant find it anywhere unless through word of mouth on server when no one around. But i dont understand why people wouldnt want to use the MA rather, because dark rooms are boring MA you got people to chat n fight with love the fun i had other night in MA with our guys. And def cant wait for all 6 to be up, but yea cant find it anywhere if anyone can link it would be awesome.

 

[heylookitskyle]

@Angyles : I don't believe it's written but different mods and Admins say it is and will punish for you using them.

@Shadownub : Yes there is no difference, we might as well make a cave looking darkroom and call it a natural cave.

@GreekCrackShot : Yeah sewer is the only MA you can get past round 5 on. We need an effecient way to level in the meantime.

 

[Angyles]

The issue I have is I see mods and admins contradicting each other on certain things. Some say it is fine, others say it is not....so which is it?

It would be best if it is answered once and for all, in writing, so there is not any concerns.

Just this past week or so, I saw an Admin and a mod both say ((In off topic chat in game)) that the darkrooms are legal, and the size is only a recommended size...so really which is it? Lol

 

[Devoshade]

The issue I have is I see mods and admins contradicting each other on certain things. Some say it is fine, others say it is not....so which is it?

It would be best if it is answered once and for all, in writing, so there is not any concerns.

Just this past week or so, I saw an Admin and a mod both say ((In off topic chat in game)) that the darkrooms are legal, and the size is only a recommended size...so really which is it? Lol

Yea same bout almost two weeks ago one of the Admins said a darkroom was legal, so long as it wasnt bigger than 30x30 and multifloored. So if its changed this is the first ive heard, but also this thread hasnt had any Admin Founder input so not sure this is a safe bet till there 2 cents are in because to many people go off what they hear rather what there (by staff) told.

 

[Kainzo]

With the introduction of mob arenas - we're going to have a policy change here to make all dark rooms illegal.

Multi-room, damaging, auto-farming "spawners" have and always will be illegal.

If you cant get past wave 5 in mob arena - it's because you are horrible at teamwork / communication. The only mob arena that is currently "impossible" past wave 5 is Temple.

That's 1/4 not 3/4 - stop whining.

 

[GreekCrackShot]

I'm sure one of the admins will edit the rules if they are deemed illegal. Until that time, I'm not taking anyone's word for it. If an admin tells me that it's against the rules, so be it.

I'm gonna use my darkroom until it is put IN THE RULES, that darkrooms are illegal. If i get banned, then my defense is that it's not against the rules because NO WHERE, does it say darkrooms are illegal.

EDIT: Good timing, Kain, right when I was writing my post xD

 

[Devoshade]

With the introduction of mob arenas - we're going to have a policy change here to make all dark rooms illegal.

Multi-room, damaging, auto-farming "spawners" have and always will be illegal.

If you cant get past wave 5 in mob arena - it's because you are horrible at teamwork / communication. The only mob arena that is currently "impossible" past wave 5 is Temple.

That's 1/4 not 3/4 - stop whining.

@Angyles big boss man himself said it must be true hehe.