Suggestion Protecting Residences - Locking Doors

WizChip · Feb 16, 2014

So, in doing some research and asking Kainzo on this subject. He said it was up to the community if this is to be implemented or not.

The Residence Plugin comes with the ability to do many things with FLAGS.

One of which is deny the ability to use items, including doors. So, instead of all of us using DIRT for doors, we could lock our doors?
What do we think about this?

I would like to petition the community for their thoughts on enabling the mods ability to lock our doors.

mikehk · Feb 16, 2014

I would say yes, but at the same time I would say no. having them would be great IMO, but also having them would discourage the use of door LWCs. its more 65-35 for me where 65 is yes.

Jonsoon · Feb 16, 2014

I say why not. I use dirt as doors anyway. This way it would at least look nice.

what777 · Feb 16, 2014

Yes good

WizChip · Feb 16, 2014

Jonsoon said:
I say why not. I use dirt as doors anyway. This way it would at least look nice.

lol.. exactly. I walk around and look at player housing and laugh at all the dirt doors.

The other one that really made me scratch my head was the dirt blocks above the chests... I was like REALL? Come on management! Help a neighborhood raise that resale value.

Jonsoon · Feb 16, 2014

WizChip said:
lol.. exactly. I walk around and look at player housing and laugh at all the dirt doors.

The other one that really made me scratch my head was the dirt blocks above the chests... I was like REALL? Come on management! Help a neighborhood raise that resale value.

If chests are included in the item flag, that will change my view on this.

But pretty sure that is a container flag, compared to redstone. I can check that in a bit.

archceaser · Feb 16, 2014

Yes please for the love of the Elders, i am tired of building cool and nice looking things just to have to cover doorways with ugly ass dirt blocks.

WizChip · Feb 16, 2014

Just ran past this home.. and laughed. Who's home is this?!?!?!

Joey_Beans · Feb 16, 2014

I definitely vote no, IF to lock the doors it means you would have to set the USE flag for regions to false. Because that would make it so that ANY interactible item in the region (doors, switches, chests, furnaces, crafting tables, etc.) would become unusable by any other player. This would make raiding literally impossible, which would be bad for the server as it is one of the driving forces behind pvp.

Now, if it's done so you could lock the doors and ONLY the doors, sure, go for it. As most people are doing this anyway using LWC's

joshtsai · Feb 16, 2014

I say no also. There is a perfectly functioning option to lock doors via lwc and if you can't afford it then save some cash. If you are bashing on dirt over chests then please don't I agree it's totally ugly and should never be done.

WizChip · Feb 16, 2014

Region? We are talking about your one and only Residence.. not regions. Your Home! You know the place that is 11x11x11. It increases slightly when you contribute... but yeah.. lets keep focus here.. RESIDENCE DOORS.

http://herocraftonline.com/wiki/Residences

Edit:

Some things. How much is an LWC? 500souls. You get any free? No. Residence? You can build one. For a cost.. and then you keep paying for it to maintain it.

So, you decide to contribute. Ohhh.. nice. Now you have reduced costs. and a couple free LWC's.

Keep in mind that most residences are CAVES.. and have no doors unless they burn through a LWC and or just replace it with a block of some sort.

Same reason we see ugly blocks above chests in our ghost towns and cities.

To each their own. All comments and votes are appreciated. It's important that you share your views so we don't break this awesome systems that is in no way in any need for change. Right !

Xhazed · Feb 16, 2014

I say no that means there is less of a chance to get inside someones plot since if they break one block u can blink in but if its doors it would be harder to get in. And also then what would be the point of locked doors

Jonsoon · Feb 16, 2014

Xhazed said:
I say no that means there is less of a chance to get inside someones plot since if they break one block u can blink in but if its doors it would be harder to get in. And also then what would be the point of locked doors

Most PRs have walls, you know, besides the dirt they use as a door. Also, you cannot break a block and blink through it before it respawns.

WizChip · Feb 16, 2014

Joey_Beans said:
I definitely vote no, IF to lock the doors it means you would have to set the USE flag for regions to false. Because that would make it so that ANY interactible item in the region (doors, switches, chests, furnaces, crafting tables, etc.) would become unusable by any other player. This would make raiding literally impossible, which would be bad for the server as it is one of the driving forces behind pvp.

Now, if it's done so you could lock the doors and ONLY the doors, sure, go for it. As most people are doing this anyway using LWC's

Joey.. it has abilities to make groups and assign permission to groups. It has many abilities over just locking down with a flag with false.

Good pointer.. just there is more information that you many should read over. I read it earlier today and was amazed at all that can be done. That's if you want to get complex and all.

Btw, if it's an issue, doesn't mean you don't create the residence like you normally do without any lock downs. Nothing changes other than giving people to lock their doors. That is the point to this suggestion and what our community is looking for, judging by our votes so far.

ColbyHep55 · Feb 17, 2014

My favorite thing to do is camp outside someones dirt door and wait for him to break those two blocks and rush in. I feel like you wouldn't really be able to do that anymore.

Danda · Feb 17, 2014

Jonsoon said:
Most PRs have walls, you know, besides the dirt they use as a door. Also, you cannot break a block and blink through it before it respawns.

Doing so would be considered block lagging/exploiting anyway

Also back on the topic there are other reasons people use dirt door over iron doors etc. But I will not get into those as they're not for public ears.

WizChip · Feb 17, 2014

Danda said:
Also back on the topic there are other reasons people use dirt door over iron doors etc. But I will not get into those as they're not for public ears.

Hmm, Danda, I don't take your words lightly as most anything you have said has some meaning to it, even if it is cryptic in nature at times.

Are you saying that this system is broken and that mechanics in place would not make locked doors a secure option for a persons residence/home?

Danda · Feb 17, 2014

WizChip said:
Hmm, Danda, I don't take your words lightly as most anything you have said has some meaning to it, even if it is cryptic in nature at times.

Are you saying that this system is broken and that mechanics in place would not make locked doors a secure option for a persons residence/home?

I'm not saying that residence is broken but there are a few things I know of that might not make doors as secure as one may think.

I recommend piston doors

Joey_Beans · Feb 17, 2014

WizChip said:
Nothing changes other than giving people to lock their doors. That is the point to this suggestion and what our community is looking for, judging by our votes so far.

I dunno, I just think that if that's the sole purpose, then I don't see the point. We already have a way to lock doors, with the LWC. And the most it would cost you is a one time 500 soul fee, that is even completely refundable if you take the LWC off. I've made 500 souls in a day, on multiple occasions. It's not like it takes days or weeks of work to afford one. The people using dirt for doors are just being cheap I guess lol

However, if in making doors in regions lockable also came with a little bonus of only you being able to take items out of item frames in your region... I could be persuaded otherwise. If ya know what I mean.

WizChip · Feb 18, 2014

Have you all seen this system? Looks pretty sweet being graphical and all. Check out 1:40

Suggestion Protecting Residences - Locking Doors

I would like to be able to lock my doors to my residence.

Yes

No

WizChip

mikehk

Jonsoon

what777

WizChip

Jonsoon

archceaser

WizChip

Joey_Beans

joshtsai

WizChip

Xhazed

Portal

Jonsoon

WizChip

ColbyHep55

Danda

Dungeon Master Extremist

WizChip

Danda

Dungeon Master Extremist

Joey_Beans

WizChip