I'll also like to add the fact that nothing has really been said about GW2 in a long time. If there were things said, it was nothing new or groundbreaking. My hopes were up for GW2 but SWTOR looks like its gonna take the worm this morning and for a lot of mornings to come. Besides, paying $60 and a monthly fee which is a couple bucks cheaper than wow's cheapest, is still worth the entertainment/hobby experience. IMHO.