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Healer/Warrior/Rogue Specialization? wtf?

Discussion in 'General' started by teddytazer, Jul 17, 2012.

Healer/Warrior/Rogue Specialization? wtf?

Discussion in 'General' started by teddytazer, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. teddytazer

    teddytazer ICE ICE ICE!

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    So last night i was screwing around with a disciple, I used my chant and he kicked me disabling my skill. So a Disciple's Stick (easily craftable) does 60 damage, more damage the some warrior spec's diamond weapons, The have Aoe, Can move people away or towards or up in the air. Then theres the self heals, the anti-debuff chakra and safefall. To top it off, they get a rogues kick and meditation that allows them to regenerate mana/stam. My question is who on the balance team thinks this class is balanced compared to the other ones?
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  2. jbird112233

    jbird112233 ICE ICE ICE! Tier 7

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    I agree with this. Disciples shouldn't do so much.
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  3. MrAwesomeShadow

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    I agree as well. With these skills, they can virtually take down any class if they have the skill to do so.
  4. Perlmutter

    Perlmutter Glowstone Tier 7

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    People claim they're balanced because of the armor. That is bullshit, they do so much damage, and they completely shut down one class in specific, they shouldn't do so much damage, heal so much, and have so much utility. They need to give them a specific role. Samurai is squishy-ish dps. Dreadknight is tanky damage. Necromancer is DoT squishy-ish (without their 60 skill) DPS. Disciple is Healing, DPS, Support. Wtf?
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  5. MrAwesomeShadow

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    Meditate didn't even help this...they have become even more powerful with that. I think they're more powerful than the DKs in fact. They can cancel almost any skill off them...
  6. Perlmutter

    Perlmutter Glowstone Tier 7

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    It's just stupid, chakra needs to be nerfed hard imo, it shouldn't be an AOE dispel. Maybe give it more healing, but not remove debuffs.
  7. jbird112233

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    Or make it only remove debuffs
  8. Perlmutter

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    That still makes it so Necro might as just not even try, they have no chance against a disciple right now.
  9. spartanman118

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    I thought that disciples were supposed to be healers.

    @perl Necromancers can evenly fight a disciple if they play it right. Chakra only dispels 1 thing at a time. So if you trick them with a poison they you can throw out everything else. The healing of drainsoul is also very nice because of it's spamability. So even if they heal, you can take it out pretty fast. It's all in how you play your class.
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  10. Perlmutter

    Perlmutter Glowstone Tier 7

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    Whats the cooldown on chakra again? Like 3 seconds?

    Also poison is a key spell for necromancers after it's buff
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  11. Kwong050

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    lol, you are the guy who said discples are easy to beat -.-
  12. spartanman118

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    Then put something else on them like a despair.

    And i'm pretty sure you exagerate the cool down of chakra.
  13. Perlmutter

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    Kwong, he was saying people playing them are easy to beat, as most disciples, no offense, couldn't stand in a fight as any other class.

    Sorry, according to wiki it's 5 seconds @spartanman118
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    A DKs DoT is pathetically useless against the Disciple. Try to harmtouch them, they force push you before you get close enough. Become Death is useless as the Disc has no poison skill. Disarm is useless against them. Manafreeze is kinda useless tbh. And everything else can be chakra'd and healed away.

    I don't see why everyone is looking at DKs as the most unbalanced class...
  15. spartanman118

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    You can easily kill a disciple as a dread knight if you know how to play it right. Dread knights are easily the most "OP" class right now.

    @Perlmutter If a necromancer knows how to play their class right, they can defeat a disciple.
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    I sort of don't see that happening when you fight them in a cliff environment... :/
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    Spartan, you keep claiming that you can easily do this and that, yet as it has been proven, no. No you can not.

    Maybe if I play my class right, and they play theirs horribly and mess up left and right, then yeah, as a necro I -might- stand a chance. I shouldn't have to completely out perform someone to be close to them. Thats when you know that class is overpowered and has a few too many tricks. This is the case with disciple

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  18. spartanman118

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    Were was this mentioned? And even if it's "hilly" you can wear feather fall boots :p
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    So you have to gear yourself in a certain way just to be on an even playing field with a disciple, whereas they need a stick? Sounds fair.
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  20. spartanman118

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    Never said it was easy, just saying it's possible to kill a disciple if you understand what you are doing.
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