Suggestion Enderpearling Lwc doors

Jack_Reacher · Feb 11, 2013

EvilThor said:
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This will not change anything, beside people will stop spending money on lwc'ed doors, and dirt will unfortunately be a more common sight in towns.

Jack_Reacher said:
If you want to have a pretty door, then just put a dirt "airlock" behind it. This preserves the aesthetic benefit of a door, and it keeps intruders out. Problem solved. If the admins can't regulate this due to a Vanilla issue, then this will have to be the solution.

spartanman118 · Feb 11, 2013

The problem lies within towns themselves. Towns should be able to defend themselves, period. Otherwise what's the point in making a town? Towns have become glorified personal regions.

Sirdemonic3 · Feb 11, 2013

spartanman118 said:
The problem lies within towns themselves. Towns should be able to defend themselves, period. Otherwise what's the point in making a town? Towns have become glorified personal regions.

Thats not realy what this is about, how do you defend someone raiding you when you arent online?

Falker57 · Feb 11, 2013

Sirdemonic3 said:
Thats not realy what this is about, how do you defend someone raiding you when you arent online?

and thats not what were(or at least I) am saying. I think that people should be able to get inside towns and kill the town members and I dont think that people should be able to loot all the chests(not that they should be even able to if the townies were somewhat intelligent and covered them) How would you kill all the townies(Which is what I am saying should be the goal) if none are online? Think about the logic for a second...

spartanman118 · Feb 11, 2013

Sirdemonic3 said:
Thats not realy what this is about, how do you defend someone raiding you when you arent online?

What are you defending at that point? Your chests are supposed to be "lwc'd" (at least, if not covered with dirt).

Teerian · Feb 11, 2013

Hydroking77 said:
The server does not revolve around PvP

I keep seeing people in various threads claiming that this server does not revolve around pvp. If that's the case, pvp should not even be turned on or should be limited to a specific map/arenas. Saying that the server doesn't revolve around pvp when it is open and allowed in ALL areas is ridiculous. Wake up. It may not be the main focus of the server, but it is a huge part of it whether you like it or not.

Falker57 · Feb 11, 2013

Teerian said:
I keep seeing people in various threads claiming that this server does not revolve around pvp. If that's the case, pvp should not even be turned on or should be limited to a specific map/arenas. Saying that the server doesn't revolve around pvp when it is open and allowed in ALL areas is ridiculous. Wake up. It may not be the main focus of the server, but it is a huge part of it whether you like it or not.

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Favith Since I know he is an avid defender of the statement that this server is not about pvp. I would like to here what you say about these arguments to making it easier to raid.

HolyRane · Feb 11, 2013

This is going to destroy the server...

Sirdemonic3 · Feb 11, 2013

im not against people being able to get in and kill people. but some people feel safe not covering the chest if they have a locked door because it WAS illegal, so alot of people lost alot of stuff because they were not aware of the rule change

Warmachinexp · Feb 11, 2013

I made this thread trying to make enderpearling through lwc doors illegal. Now it's turned into a discussion about pvp and towns

Fjordsen · Feb 12, 2013

Warmachinexp said:
I made this thread trying to make enderpearling through lwc doors illegal. Now it's turned into a discussion about pvp and towns

Because allowing shit like this is the main reason townships are getting more and more useless while PvPers have pretty much free hands when it comes to any kind of exploiting. Yet, PvPers like Falker pretty much wants raiders to have the ability to surpass all protection and get inside places people hide just to kill them. Why don't we just make admins teleport raiders into townhalls and regioned houses while we're at it?

Symbolite · Feb 12, 2013

I can't believe enderpearling through a block is legal, especially a lwc'd block no-less. I agree with everyone who said there is no use for lwc doors if this is legal. While were on the topic of odd things being legal, how about using lifts through walls? We might as well make block lag jumping and using block lag to access a chest legal too.Heck give us the ability to access lwc'd chests too! lol

There seems to be no point building walls, doors, floors, ceilings or windows, just don't build them, raiders will get in anyway!

Back on Sanctum these kinds of things wouldn't be stood for and people would have banned on the spot.

Dsawemd · Feb 12, 2013

It is saddening that making exploits legal is a method of fixing them.
^This all seems to revolve around the way blocks and skills interact.

victim130 · Feb 12, 2013

spartanman118 said:
The problem lies within towns themselves. Towns should be able to defend themselves, period. Otherwise what's the point in making a town? Towns have become glorified personal regions.

Sirdemonic3 said:
Thats not realy what this is about, how do you defend someone raiding you when you arent online?

Also, not all towns are based upon PvP. And they shouldn't have to worry all the time.

victim130 · Feb 12, 2013

Teerian said:
I keep seeing people in various threads claiming that this server does not revolve around pvp. If that's the case, pvp should not even be turned on or should be limited to a specific map/arenas. Saying that the server doesn't revolve around pvp when it is open and allowed in ALL areas is ridiculous. Wake up. It may not be the main focus of the server, but it is a huge part of it whether you like it or not.

You sir, are retarded. We are a hardcore server. The kind of server where you walk out of spawn and get camped your first five hours. The kind of server where mobs rip you a new one (Although they are pretty easy after a while.) And then the kinda server where you are not safe from anyone. Though, towns are about protection, a safe zone where you can relax and build. This server also heavily supports builders that wish to make wonderful towns.

Now I'm not saying players shouldn't be raided and killed, but being able to slaughter the entire town indefinitely is plain retarded. In a hardcore server, you should need to be clever when on someone's home turf. Not lucky that you brought a wizard.

Now Kainzo I really was proud of your reply to mine and uin153 's stupid decision to abuse your own words on skill abuse. Danda and Kain, is it possible you could make it illegal despite it being hard to track or despite it being uncheckable? I mean video proof still exists. Not to mention, players are much more likely to stop just plainly because its illegal, not whether or not they can be banned by it or not. I'm not sure what's being said about lifts, but same goes there.

c12095 · Feb 12, 2013

It's not hard to check... "How did you get in" you either get told how they got in, or you realize their stalling. It's really not hard to check.

Angyles · Feb 12, 2013

I am willing to grill someone on it. ^^

But until I am told otherwise, it is legal.

Teerian · Feb 12, 2013

victim130 said:
You sir, are retarded. We are a hardcore server. The kind of server where you walk out of spawn and get camped your first five hours. The kind of server where mobs rip you a new one (Although they are pretty easy after a while.) And then the kinda server where you are not safe from anyone. Though, towns are about protection, a safe zone where you can relax and build. This server also heavily supports builders that wish to make wonderful towns.

Now I'm not saying players shouldn't be raided and killed, but being able to slaughter the entire town indefinitely is plain retarded. In a hardcore server, you should need to be clever when on someone's home turf. Not lucky that you brought a wizard.

Now Kainzo I really was proud of your reply to mine and uin153 's stupid decision to abuse your own words on skill abuse. Danda and Kain, is it possible you could make it illegal despite it being hard to track or despite it being uncheckable? I mean video proof still exists. Not to mention, players are much more likely to stop just plainly because its illegal, not whether or not they can be banned by it or not. I'm not sure what's being said about lifts, but same goes there.

You call me retarded while telling me that my statement was spot on. You're clearly a brilliant mind. By the way, that last sentence there was sarcasm. Just in case you were too stupid to figure it out.

Pointing out other people's idiocy aside, I'm slightly torn on the whole locked door idea. On one hand, I heavily lean towards thinking that being able to bypass a locked door is unfair to those who spend the money on it. Doing so completely defeats the purpose of having the door to begin with. On the other hand, I'm not sure I like the idea of someone being able to stash away a massive hoard with no risk to it whatsoever using a single door. I like the idea of locked chests because it limits how much space you have for complete protection. Plus locked doors seem like a lazy way of protecting things when redstone corridors and raider traps do the job just as well if not better.

victim130 · Feb 12, 2013

Teerian said:
You call me retarded while telling me that my statement was spot on. You're clearly a brilliant mind. By the way, that last sentence there was sarcasm. Just in case you were too stupid to figure it out.

Pointing out other people's idiocy aside, I'm slightly torn on the whole locked door idea. On one hand, I heavily lean towards thinking that being able to bypass a locked door is unfair to those who spend the money on it. Doing so completely defeats the purpose of having the door to begin with. On the other hand, I'm not sure I like the idea of someone being able to stash away a massive hoard with no risk to it whatsoever using a single door. I like the idea of locked chests because it limits how much space you have for complete protection. Plus locked doors seem like a lazy way of protecting things when redstone corridors and raider traps do the job just as well if not better.

I was actually calling you an idiot on your view of the server. Though to further rip you, Raider traps and the like are fine, but what if its late at night? Or no one is online or even in town at the time? Unless you spend the super hard work of automating it all there is still this: you need to hope they walk into the trap, hope it kills them and hope your town doesn't walk into it.

Although in regions I think you are stupid for not covering or locking shit, but players DO NOT need advantages when they are in someone's area.

Also to state, you should need to work as hard to get my valuables as I did to get them.

Aerokii · Feb 12, 2013

victim130 said:
and hope your town doesn't walk into it.

Heh, I had one trap set up back in DG that killed twice as many idiot town members as it did raiders. Good times.

Suggestion Enderpearling Lwc doors

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